KOTFE Ranking

So we have new high tier characters like Vaylin, Senya, Valkorion, Arcann, The Outlander in the lore and I'm curious to see where people rank them as of now.

Please avoid their hypothetical peaks and focus on their actualized potentials. So where do you rank them compared to other characters in the lore?

My assessment at the time is:

Vaylin: Malgus level(I have Malgus between Vader and Dooku. Vaylin, more or less equal to Malgus)
Arcann: Krayt level - I think Krayt is Revan/Kun tier(above Vader but below Plagueis)
The Outlander: This one is hard to gauge. He should be Dooku level imo but I'm willing to change opinions.
Senya: I'm not sure how to view her victory against Vaylin. The fact that Vaylin tried to use the force to get the upper hand after losing the duel and still fail says a lot about Senya imo. If she is indeed above Vaylin, she should at least be Vader tier. I'll wait to see other people's comments though.
Valkorion: Easily DE Sidious level at this point. In fact he has superior showings in several areas but due to Sidious' perfection(being the best in both force and sabers etc) and Force Storms, I still won't put Valky above Sidious until I see better arguments and new feats.

So where do you rank them?

Vaylin: Around Marek level. She's not as skilled as Malgus, but much more powerful.
Arcann: Somewhere around Vader, who is pretty much around the same level as all those people you just put above him.
Senya: Close to Obi-Wan or Mace. The fact that she can fight Vaylin is cool and all, but she was absolutely tooled by Heskal in the Force, who is weaker than the Outlander
Valkorion: A far as displays or raw power and combat efficiency go, he's at or above DE Sidious for me.

Well I'm gonna wait until I can play it all through myself, personally. Especially with the Outsider.

The Knight is officially Kenobi level, tbh.

- Great skill with a blade.
- Terrible Force defenses.
- One of the best Jedi ever.

How does the Knight have terrible Force defenses? Even Anakin can be TK'd, and his Force defences are l33t.

She blocked Vitiate's lightning and resisted his other powers in the Dark Temple. She was also stated to be too powerful for his telepathy. So not really. The TOR protags just get dunked on for some reason.

Not sure why Vaylin is on Starkiller's tier. She has one great force feat but SK has better.

And then she has one rather unimpressive dueling feat which once again SK has better.

Valkorion is damn impressive though. And Arcann defending himself against that tempest was also a very good feat.

Originally posted by Nephthys
She blocked Vitiate's lightning and resisted his other powers in the Dark Temple.

Clearly Vitiate was vastly weakened.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The Knight is officially Kenobi level, tbh.

- Great skill with a blade.
- Terrible Force defenses.
- One of the best Jedi ever.

Seems reasonable.

BTW, Senya is apparently a "melee specialist."

Originally posted by ares834
Not sure why Vaylin is on Starkiller's tier. She has one great force feat but SK has better.

And then she has one rather unimpressive dueling feat which once again SK has better.

Valkorion is damn impressive though. And Arcann defending himself against that tempest was also a very good feat.

Originally posted by ares834
Not sure why Vaylin is on Starkiller's tier. She has one great force feat but SK has better.

Now honestly tell me if Galen Marek and Darth Vader have any superior showings. They don't.

Originally posted by ares834
And then she has one rather unimpressive dueling feat which once again SK has better.

Is Senya supposed to be unimpressive?

Originally posted by ares834
Clearly Vitiate was vastly weakened.

It was still on an immense Darkside nexus, after she'd fought through legions of Sith and Imperial Guards and expended her energy saving Kira/Doc.

The Hero's still stated to be above all Jedi of the era, which holds Jedi way more powerful than Kenobi.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Check this thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t619094.html

Now honestly tell me if Galen Marek and Darth Vader have any superior showings.

They do, honestly.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It was still on an immense Darkside nexus, after she'd fought through legions of Sith and Imperial Guards and expended her energy saving Kira/Doc..

Hero clearly isn't an army-buster like you led us all to believe.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It was still on an immense Darkside nexus, after she'd fought through legions of Sith and Imperial Guards and expended her energy saving Kira/Doc.

Which brings me back to my original point, Vitiate was vastly weakened.

The Outlander (without tapping Valkorion's power) is weaker than Arcann or Revan so clearly (s)he is also below a full powered Vitiate.

Originally posted by Nephthys
They do, honestly.

Originally posted by ares834
Not sure why Vaylin is on Starkiller's tier. She has one great force feat but SK has better.

And then she has one rather unimpressive dueling feat which once again SK has better.

Valkorion is damn impressive though. And Arcann defending himself against that tempest was also a very good feat.

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As of chapter 3, I'm willing to concede that Vaylin is Kota-level. 'Killer would wreck her shit as of now.

Legend: All are Yoda/Palpatine tier.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
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As of chapter 3, I'm willing to concede that Vaylin is Kota-level. 'Killer would wreck her shit as of now.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
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Dude, I can't stress enough how little anyone cares what you think.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Dude, I can't stress enough how little anyone cares what you think.