KOTFE Ranking

Wouldn't my evaluations be transparent if that were the case? mmm

In terms of combat potential:

Valkorion > Arcann > Vaylin > Senya

Valkorion I have as a match for ROTJ Sidious
Arcann I have as a match for Vader at the moment, potential for higher.
Vaylin I have as Starkiller level, yeh
Senya's Kenobi.

Raw power wise?

Valkorion > Vaylin > Arcann > Senya

Same as above, except Vaylin would rise to Vader level raw power, perhaps higher, once we see her fully unrestrained.

Yes, I put Vaylin > Senya. Vaylin wasn't fighting to kill, she told Arcann she wanted her mother back, and she employed Dun Moch in an attempt to do just that. The fact she didn't abuse her force advantage means she was likely holding back, and her line "Mother let me live, I'm going to kill her" implies the same...

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Kindly take your nonsense elsewhere.

Also, mad lowballing Temp

Originally posted by Sinious
Also, mad lowballing Temp

Sin, I know you desperately want Vaylin to be capable of farting the likes of Vader, 'Killer, and so forth out of existence, but I stand by what I said: as of chapter 3, she's Kota-level feat-wise.

Well, if you want to take Kota's feats at face value, he's better than Dooku, so that doesn't mean much, Temp.

LAL.

You guys are mad-overrating this KotFE shit. Vaylin being Starkiller level is suicidal shit, and Arcann isn't Vader level either.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Well, if you want to take Kota's feats at face value, he's better than Dooku, so that doesn't mean much, Temp.

I do take Kota's feats at face value. Doesn't mean I'm opposed to power-scaling for Dooku, Vaylin, or anybody else. Notice I didn't say Kota could take her. I said feat-wise, he's on a level with her. Which he is.

Cool. Like I said, feat-wise, Kota is better than Mace or Dooku. Your intentions of getting everyone butthurt is noted, but it doesn't mean much when you actually read what you write. It's obvious you're trying to write it off as Vaylin is trashy, let's be honest. Simply not the truth.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
LAL.

You guys are mad-overrating this KotFE shit. Vaylin being Starkiller level is suicidal shit, and Arcann isn't Vader level either.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Cool. Like I said, feat-wise, Kota is better than Mace or Dooku. Your intentions of getting everyone butthurt is noted, but it doesn't mean much when you actually read what you write. It's obvious you're trying to write it off as Vaylin is trashy, let's be honest. Simply not the truth.

Not at all. KOTFE's feats have been alleged to be omg ub3r. So far, I'm finding nothing out of the ordinary, hence why I mentioned it. No one's trying to make anyone butthurt: yours is simply a chronic condition.

Here you go. Apply liberally. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Doubt it. Vitiate states the Hero couldn't defeat an army of under a dozen Zakuul Knights with the aid of an expert swordsman and a powerful Sith.

Hero clearly isn't an army-buster like you led us all to believe.

Lol, you clearly haven't played Swtor enough if you think the amount of enemies on screen is reliable. "A squad of my best men" usually mean 2 or 3 people. An "army" of under 12 dudes is obviously horseshit.

Led you to believe? I merely stated the facts. Scourge outright says there's legions of Sith in Kaas City and obviously Vitiate wouldn't surround himself with a few guys in the Dark Temple. She also fought through Vitiate's fortress and got there faster than any of the other Jedi did despite them grouping up. Every protag is an army buster in TOR, they do it so often I don't even note when it happens anymore.

Originally posted by ares834
Which brings me back to my original point, Vitiate was [B]vastly weakened.

The Outlander (without tapping Valkorion's power) is weaker than Arcann or Revan so clearly (s)he is also below a full powered Vitiate. [/B]

Bolding the word really gets it across, yes. He wasn't that weakened bro and he was on a huge nexus and had tons of time to recover.

Oh wow, I guess she sucks then. All I said was that the Knight's defenses aren't shit. Which is canonically true.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Examples?

The Force Unleashed is the most insane source in the mythos, bro. Like Tempest says, even a scrub like Kota rips a massive orbital platform from it's supports. Starkiller does things like TK thousands of droids with an "artificial hurricane" that stretches them over the horizon like a dark cloud, disintegrates half a freighter, one-shots an AT-AT with lightning and tons of other bollocks.

You shouldn't take any of it seriously cuz it's completely over the top and exaggerated, but Starkiller and Vader definitely have better showings than Vaylin if you want to go there.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Sin, I know you desperately want Vaylin to be capable of farting the likes of Vader, 'Killer, and so forth out of existence, but I stand by what I said: as of chapter 3, she's Kota-level feat-wise.

I think Vaylin is Vader level in TK but needs to prove herself more to be on Vader level in overall. Kota is a bit depressing though.

Your denial is noted, but nevertheless laughable.

People casually ripping giant machinery meant to support a min-sun and then hurling at the protagonist is out of the ordinary, quite frankly.

Using Kota as your standard doesn't change that fact.

Originally posted by Sinious
Don't accuse me of things with no reason dude its not nice.

I think Vaylin is Vader level in TK but needs to prove herself more to be on Vader level in overall. Kota is a bit depressing though.

Less an accusation than it is an observation.

Vaylin's comparable to Kota in terms of TK. Vader would wreck her shit. But again, I've only just finished chapter 4.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Less an accusation than it is an observation.

Vaylin's comparable to Kota in terms of TK. Vader would wreck her shit. But again, I've only just finished chapter 4.

Like others stated, your approach on Kota puts him above a lot of people that we all know to be higher than him including yourself.

Originally posted by Sinious
Keep accusing. 👆

Like others stated, your approach on Kota puts him above a lot of people that we all know to be higher than him including yourself.

facepalm

No one is putting Kota "above" anybody. Go back and reread where I specifically mentioned power-scaling and how I specifically went out of my way to not say Kota = Vaylin, let alone > Vaylin.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Go ahead. I'll be at your funeral.

Sure. You supplying the pistol?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
facepalm

No one is putting Kota "above" anybody. Go back and reread where I specifically mentioned power-scaling and how I specifically went out of my way to not say Kota = Vaylin, let alone > Vaylin.

So, where do you rank them compared to others?

Originally posted by Sinious
Fair enough.(didnt see your last post on this tbh)

So, where do you rank them compared to others?

One would think your enduring obsession with me would compel you to read my posts. Your version of stalking includes all the creep factor and none of the diligence. uhuh

Hard to give a reliable opinion on holistic power levels without seeing the full game. In the middle of chapter 5 now.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bolding the word really gets it across, yes. He wasn't that weakened bro and he was on a huge nexus and had tons of time to recover.

I'm not sure where you ge the notion that he "wasn't that weakened". Which is why I brought up the Outlander being weaker than Arcann as Arcann is nowhere near as powerful as Vitiate.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh wow, I guess she sucks then.

Read above.