Originally posted by h1a8
I have no problem with Superman not being able to physically overpower the enchantment. But I do have a problem with him not being worthy while Captain America is.
1) Cap is more worthy than Superman, imho.
2) Read what Thor says - "in desperate hours". Both times Steve lifted it, hours were indeed desperate 😛
Originally posted by -Pr-Superman is a warrior. He knows MA and has many years of fighting experience . Didn't him and WW fight for thousands of years together when they were trapped in another dimension or something? Eric masterson, a non warrior lifted Mjolnir, to help Thor. He was found worthy because of his selflessness. He even took a blast that was meant for Thor. I think Superman would have done the same thing. It's really all about writers (which are inconsistent with each other). There is no set rule.
Cap is a warrior/soldier. Superman isn't.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman is a warrior. He knows MA and has many years of fighting experience . Didn't him and WW fight for thousands of years together when they were trapped in another dimension or something? Eric masterson, a non warrior lifted Mjolnir, to help Thor. He was found worthy because of his selflessness. He even took a blast that was meant for Thor. I think Superman would have done the same thing. It's really all about writers (which are inconsistent with each other). There is no set rule.
It's the mindset, not the knowledge. Superman has the training, but if he could help it, he would rather have a peaceful solution.
Originally posted by h1a8
He just doesn't fight as good.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman is a warrior. He knows MA and has many years of fighting experience . Didn't him and WW fight for thousands of years together when they were trapped in another dimension or something? Eric masterson, a non warrior lifted Mjolnir, to help Thor. He was found worthy because of his selflessness. He even took a blast that was meant for Thor. I think Superman would have done the same thing. It's really all about writers (which are inconsistent with each other). There is no set rule.
Odin knew Masterson. He doesn't know Superman.
Superman isn't a warrior. He's a skilled fighter, but he's not a warrior. There is a big difference.
Originally posted by -Pr-Well that's why I said I might be wrong. I thought being a skilled fighter was being a warrior. I didn't know Masterson was known by Odin prior to helping Thor. That could explain that. Oh well.
Odin knew Masterson. He doesn't know Superman.Superman isn't a warrior. He's a skilled fighter, but he's not a warrior. There is a big difference.
Originally posted by h1a8
Well that's why I said I might be wrong. I thought being a skilled fighter was being a warrior. I didn't know Masterson was known by Odin prior to helping Thor. That could explain that. Oh well.
Warrior is a mindset as much as it is a set of skills. At least to me.
I barely read Thor, but yes, iirc Odin gave him the power to save his life after Masterson had shown himself worthy of the mantle.
What people forget is that the first time Masterson lifted Mjolnir, it wasn't him actually lifting it, Thor called the hammer. After that, he had Thors essence inside of him. He didn't actually lift the hammer by his lonesome until after he and Thor were separated at the end of his run. By then he had gone through a lot.