Mjolnir vs. Enchantment

Started by StiltmanFTW10 pages

Hey! Cut me some slack. Everyone needs a day off. Even me from mocking Thor 😛

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He lifted the damn thing.. when Mjolnir's might was needed.

When he just wanted to show off like a retard, of course it could not be lifted 😛


Basically.
In the words of Ric Flair, if you dont like it, learn to love it. If Thor fans had to deal with Supes beating him, Supes fans can nut up and deal with Supes not being able to lift Mjolnir.

Originally posted by h1a8
more worthy or worthy? I feel Superman has the exact same traits. He just doesn't fight as good.

Only Superman and Cap don't have the exact same traits. they have two completely different mindsets. to put it in plain terms, Cap is a warrior and Superman is a champion.

that and clark wont kill...and everytime he has killed he immediately turns heel

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm going to assume he is immortal mnow too.

So nothing happens.... forever. The strongest, toughest being to ever exist simply stays in one spot forever, never accomplishing a single task. He becomes something of a tourist attraction at first, until the people get bored of his statue-like performance, over the years he is simply forgotten as the world grows around him, covered by vines and moss, he eventually fades from memory entirely.

Then one day, thousand of years from now, he will accidentally be uncovered by a more advanced civilisation. They will study him, use his DNA to create a virtually unstoppable army and go on to conquer the universe; all the while Odin and Loki are watching on, chortling away at the foolishness of mortals, wondering why Thor never reclamied his most valued posession from this stupid, stupid man.

pile

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
😂

Why do you keep tempting the mods for a ban?

Lol...if Pr or Bada took that as a serious post, after all the yrs they've known me then I don't know what to say.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...if Pr or Bada took that as a serious post..I don't know what to say.

"OOPS" would be a good start. 😛

They both know me though. Or I THINK they do. Pr tends to know when I'm serious or not. Hell, 90% of the people on this forum does. I shouldn't have to say oops.

After "oops", several blocked login attempts accompanied by an even greater number of deleted expletives...😆

Lol...I can see that happening.

So we all agree that Mjolnir breaks since it has been broken before?

Originally posted by h1a8
So we all agree that Mjolnir breaks since it has been broken before?

Honestly?

Either thing could happen, depending on writer's mood...

Sometimes Mjolnir is written as durable as adamantium, other times it's not even heat-resistant, cracks after killing Bor, gets sliced in half, etc...

Has it ever been broken, whilst in the course of being lifted?

If not, the enchantment protects it from being broken WHILST being lifted.

Good post. Mayhaps you're right.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because he is a boyscount. He has all the traits Cap does.
Eric Masterson was even able to lift Mjolnir. What does he have that Superman doesn't? I could be wrong as I kinda feel. So I don't mind and education right now.

Probably, at least partly, has something to do with the inherent dishonesty of a secret identity.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Good post. Mayhaps you're right.

Likely, as it supersedes actual muscle power.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Probably, at least partly, has something to do with the inherent dishonesty of a secret identity.
Lol both Masterson and Thor had secret identities, especially Masterson. Even Odin has disguised himself before.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Has it ever been broken, whilst in the course of being lifted?

If not, the enchantment protects it from being broken WHILST being lifted.

It hasnt been attempted to be lifted with the force necessary to break it yet. So we can't be sure.
But if that were true (we have no way of verifying that) then it would not make much sense because the enchantment could be used to protect Mjolnir while it's not being lifted making it absolutely indestructible. Destroyer could have been enchanted to be absolutely indestructible.

Originally posted by h1a8

But if that were true (we have no way of verifying that) then it would not make much sense because the enchantment could be used to protect Mjolnir while it's not being lifted making it absolutely indestructible. Destroyer could have been enchanted to be absolutely indestructible.

So as we cannot verify if its true or false, we can all agree to disagree. No doubt you will try and use 'logic' to pursue it further, so go ahead.

Here's my thought:

What if the enchantment basically makes the strength of an unworthy wielder effectively 0? The strength of the wielder doesn't matter, because the hammer nixes the source of the strength.

Like, a mutant with infinite strength punching Leech in the face would just feel like anybody else punching Leech in the face.

I'm not saying the hammer/enchantment can't be overpowered by infinite power, but maybe not through strength...?

Originally posted by Smurph
Here's my thought:

What if the enchantment basically makes the strength of an unworthy wielder effectively 0? The strength of the wielder doesn't matter, because the hammer nixes the source of the strength.

Like, a mutant with infinite strength punching Leech in the face would just feel like anybody else punching Leech in the face.

I'm not saying the hammer/enchantment can't be overpowered by infinite power, but maybe not through strength...?

This would be a plausible explanation if there weren't any showings displaying actual superstrength when lifting (The ground completely breaking when trying to lift it).

I have a good theory that's better than anyone's theory so far. Buy I'll be defeating myself if I give it. So I wont...

...just kidding. I'll give it, just want to debate a little while longer. Debating is fun.