The Eternal Family vs the Skywalker family (spoilers for KotFE)

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The Eternal Family vs the Skywalker family (spoilers for KotFE)

The Eternal Family: Vaylin, Thexan, Arcann, Senya, and Valkorion.

The Skywalker Family: RotJ Vader (cannon/legends), FotJ Luke, Peak Leia, FotJ Ben Skywalker, and FotJ Jaina.

All members of the Eternal Family are in their prime carnations.

Battle takes place on Odessen.

Round 2: If the Skywalkers can't win, change Vader to Zonakin. If the Eternals can't win, remove Jaina or Ben (both if too one-sided) from the Skywalkers.

Luke>Valk
Vader≥Arcann
Jaina>Senya

I can't see Vaylin and Thexan losing to Leia and Ben though.

I think I'd have to side the Eternal Family because Leia and Ben are weak links relatively speaking.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Luke>Valk
Vader≥Arcann
Jaina>Senya

I can't see Vaylin and Thexan losing to Leia and Ben though.

I think I'd have to side the Eternal Family because Leia and Ben are weak links relatively speaking.

Interesting. What if Vader was replaced by Zonakin and we removed Leia and Ben?

Removing Leia and Ben does little more than make the Skywalkers outnumbered 5 to 3.

Zonakin is a concept I have always opposed. Never agreed with this "Zone" BS, unless it's Anakin in his state of Oneness on Mortis, in which case the Eternal Family gets absolutely shit on. Far more likely you're referring to Anakin when he gets pissed like he did against Dooku. I have always believed Vader>Anakin, but even assuming this is Anakin in the state of mind that he beat Dooku in, he still has a less impressive force mastery in comparison with Vader and he's not nearly as intelligent. I view him as coping with Arcann's force powers worse than Vader does tbh.

So really this proposed change just makes it easier for team 1.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Removing Leia and Ben does little more than make the Skywalkers outnumbered 5 to 3.

Zonakin is a concept I have always opposed. Never agreed with this "Zone" BS, unless it's Anakin in his state of Oneness on Mortis, in which case the Eternal Family gets absolutely shit on. Far more likely you're referring to Anakin when he gets pissed like he did against Dooku. I have always believed Vader>Anakin, but even assuming this is Anakin in the state of mind that he beat Dooku in, he still has a less impressive force mastery in comparison with Vader and he's not nearly as intelligent. I view him as coping with Arcann's force powers worse than Vader does tbh.

So really this proposed change just makes it easier for team 1.

I was actually referring to the Mortis Anakin, though after reviewing his Mortis feats I forgot how stupid it is to put him in a thread, and have changed my decision to adding Cade to team 2.

The Eternal family

Thexan straps on a suicide bomb

If you need to buff the Skywalkers, you could swap in Cade or Jacen.

They don't need a bump; it's fairly balanced as it stands. I'd make a small edit to your pairings, though, DMB:

Valkorion V.S Luke
Arcann V.S Vader
Vaylin V.S Jaina
Senya V.S Leia and Ben

EDIT: Missed Thexan; yeah, it'd probably be fair to add in a Cade-figure into the mix; Ben isn't up to the task of taking on Thexan by himself.

Adding Jacen would be tantamount to making this a stomp, though.

Well, Figure Leia's mostly going to hang back and use Battle Meditation and Force Harmony and such.

Senya holds off Jaina, Vaylin holds off Vader with TK and Valky holds off Luke while Arcann slaughters the weaklings in team Skywalker. GG

Vaylin isn't holding off Vader, and Senya isn't holding of Jaina.

Starkiller TK > Vaylin TK, yet pre-prime Vader could stalemate him while throwing the fight.

Even if I do concede Vaylin is = with Vader in the Force (which I don't) he is easily the superior duelist and martial combatant.

Well, the Ultimate Skywalker Family team is Luke, Vader, Caedus, Cade, Jaina. (Much as I want to throw Mara in, she's Skywalker by marriage, not by blood)

I never said Vaylin = Vader lol.
I think she can hold off Vader long enough for Arcann to do kill the weaklings though.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Well, the Ultimate Skywalker Family team is Luke, Vader, Caedus, Cade, Jaina. (Much as I want to throw Mara in, she's Skywalker by marriage, not by blood)
In that case, I think Anankin should be used instead of Vader. It would also make it a more interesting fight.

Who cares if Mara is a Skywalker by marriage, exactly? I was unaware that Senya was secretly Valkorion's sister.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Senya was secretly Valkorion's sister.

What?

He's pointing out that Mara not being a Skywalker by blood shouldn't be used to discredit her, since Senya isn't related to Vitiate by blood either.