The Eternal Family vs the Skywalker family (spoilers for KotFE)

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The power core does not goes bust immediately after the destruction of the structure beneath it. It continues to work. I get the impression that Vaylin destroyed it.

Really though, there is no reason for Vaylin to do this.

Nothing else falls apart during this scene. Vaylin destroyed this bridge; she was present on the scene behind the protagonists. They didn't notice her before the bridge incident.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Probably because the generator wasn't completely destroyed, but Vaylin severely damaged it so it was bound to fail.

1. Protagonists are fleeing from Vaylin; they move from one Skyscraper to another. A massive bridge connects these two Skyscrapers.
2. A massive power plant is also located in the space between the two skyscrapers.
3. Vaylin notices the power plant and begins to destroy it; hurling its massive chunks towards the other Skyscraper where the protagonists went.
4. The targeted Skyscraper begins to shake and the protagonists attempt to flee it as apparent from a cut-scene.
5. Some game-play occurs.
6. The power core goes critical and explodes.

I get the impression that Vaylin continues to destroy the power core during the game-play session.

Also, look at the size of the structure in question:

Notice the red arrow below? It is pointing towards the structure that Vaylin tears apart first. Those trees on the bridge are like 7 - 10 floors tall. Here is a detailed analysis: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t619116.html

Vaylin is certainly super-strong.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Really though, there is no reason for Vaylin to do this.I'll reserve judgement for when I've played it myself.

But you can watch the scene on Youtube.

I've played through it several times. You're mostly talking out of your ass.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I've played through it several times. You're mostly talking out of your ass.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I've played through it several times. You're mostly talking out of your ass.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
People can watch the entire chapter on Youtube (gameplay included). Nobody needs your input to understand the developments.

Nice edit.

Also, doesn't that apply to you as well? Nobody needing your input to understand.

Just sayin'

Toplel.

Lol, just played through the scene. Freshest's assessment is accurate. 👆

Originally posted by Nephthys

Yet he still struggles with a single Shadow Guard.

This is bad....why? You're making it sound like it's a bad thing?

Some particular reason a nameless guy can't put up a fight against a named character?

Is there some sort of rule?

It's not like that hasn't happened in the past with other sources.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lol, just played through the scene. Freshest's assessment is accurate. 👆

As for the bridge, still think that it fell apart on its own?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I see. As I recall, every other one of Vaylin's TK feats involved Force pushing people and making an impromptu shield out of a moderately sized piece of bridge.

I guess we can safely disregard her building feat on the same grounds?

Or you might want to read the actual novel, in which it's made absolutely crystal clear this isn't something he can just pull out of his ass. It is effectively a oneness(outlier) feat.

No such thing is even implied about Vaylin, as a matter of fact we know with absolute certainty that Vaylin in reality is a lot stronger than we have seen so far. In coming chapters she will become far more attuned to her real potential.

Speaking of...that scene with Valyin and the piece of metal...just no, why those cannons didn't just shred it to nothing and her is beyond stupid.....yeah that makes perfect sense.

You'll say that the fire went through the piece of metal yeah...yet for some reason it was still intact and not just obliterated...those must have been some weak ass cannons then.

Also right....real potential, knowing this family and BW it's all gonna be..

"No they were weakened!"

"Oh no, their powers are suppressed!"

"Oh no, they were still using only a fraction of their power."

While doing ridiculous feats of power.

It's a wonder how BW is ever gonna write themselves out of this one, because I don't see how anyone is gonna stop any of these characters, if they are doing this.

Heh...'characters' yeah right. Anyway rant over..apologies.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Speaking of...that scene with Valyin and the piece of metal...just no, why those cannons didn't just shred it to nothing and her is beyond stupid.....yeah that makes perfect sense.

You'll say that the fire went through the piece of metal yeah...yet for some reason it was still intact and not just obliterated...those must have been some weak ass cannons then.

If the canons were weak, Vaylin would not have felt the need to shield herself with a chunk of metal.

Wolf, Vaylin's power was controlled by Valkorion and only once Vitiate died and hibernated in Yavin IV's temples were her powers unveiled. Even five years later she was playing catch up in terms of grasping her enormous powers. Infact Valkorion even favors her because she is strong, just like he is.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Doesn't changes the fact that the structure in question was huge. And its destruction represents one of the best telekinetic showings in the lore so far.

As for the bridge, still think that it fell apart on its own?

Originally posted by AncientPower
Or you might want to read the actual novel, in which it's made absolutely crystal clear this isn't something he can just pull out of his ass. It is effectively a oneness(outlier) feat.

No such thing is even implied about Vaylin, as a matter of fact we know with absolute certainty that Vaylin in reality is a lot stronger than we have seen so far. In coming chapters she will become far more attuned to her real potential.

Top-tier =/= Outlier.

This being before his prime, who was nonetheless inferior to his clone who was TKing 300 meter frigates while defending against the heat of reentry with seemingly moderate effort. 👆

Rahm Kota motivated Galen Marek to try something that even he was hesitant to do with his "size matters not" lectures. I wonder how many others can pull-off the same, should they try. It is rare for a Force-user to influence a large Starship with Force powers.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
No mention of Oneness is ever made, only massive exertion.

Top-tier =/= Outlier.

This being before his prime, who was nonetheless inferior to his clone who was TKing 300 meter frigates while defending against the heat of reentry with seemingly moderate effort. 👆

I said effectively, the novel is explicit in it's depiction of Marek's feat, which is clearly beyond his normal limitations.

Use the frigate feat or (better) the fusion weapon feat if you like, I'm more than happy to entertain such feats. The notion of them being effective against other top tiers is however very debateable.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Wolf, Vaylin's power was controlled by Valkorion and only once Vitiate died and hibernated in Yavin IV's temples were her powers unveiled. Even five years later she was playing catch up in terms of grasping her enormous powers. Infact Valkorion even favors her because she is strong, just like he is.

Yet even after that time, she's still just finding her potential.

Also...being able to use TK while STILL in the womb?...Come on seriously? Not even Anakin was doing that and he was conceived by the Force itself...

Also Legend, even still the first blasts from the cannon were enough to rip right through the metal piece, so I don't see how it's durable enough to withstand sustained fire...even in the exact same spot, you'd think at least there would be a chunk of it blown apart.

I'd care more if these were actual characters...Valyin just comes across as a little *****, Arcann is just an egotistical maniac. Though out of the 2 I prefer Arcann, but that's not saying much.

Wolf, it's TOR; do you actually expect decent writting to come from it?