The Eternal Family vs the Skywalker family (spoilers for KotFE)

Started by cs_zoltan6 pages
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Who cares if Mara is a Skywalker by marriage, exactly? I was unaware that Senya was secretly Valkorion's sister.

I knew they are rednecks when I saw them.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Vaylin isn't holding off Vader, and Senya isn't holding of Jaina.

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Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Starkiller TK > Vaylin TK, yet pre-prime Vader could stalemate him while throwing the fight.

No.

Vaylin have superior telekinetic showings then both.

Inb4 Killer's outlier feat as evidence for his regular TK strength again..

What outlier feat would that be?

Star Destroyer.

Why is it when Starkiller does something once, it's an outlier, but when someone is in TOR does something once it's super valid?

Originally posted by AncientPower
Inb4 Killer's outlier feat as evidence for his regular TK strength again..

Yet a lot of people take Vaylin's one and only good TK feat at face value. Interesting double standards.

But if you want standart Stakiller TK feats:

Soon the foyer was full of the twitching, smoking bodies of the Temple’s hapless guardians. He began to tire, not from exertion but from the tedium of knocking down droid after droid, to no apparent end. There might have been thousands of them.

Deactivating his lightsaber, he took a deep breath. With one mighty exhalation of power, he blasted all of them—those in pieces and those approaching with needle-tipped fingers and vibrosaws upraised—out of the foyer doors. Then he blasted the rubbish piles after them. He kept pushing until a dark cloud soared out over Raxus Prime’s hideous landscape—an artificial hurricane full of droid golems.

When the foyer was clear, the apprentice straightened. He was no longer pushing with the Force, but the floor beneath him shook nonetheless. A heavy booming sound came from deeper in the Temple, and was getting louder. He had certainly attracted someone’s attention now.
-- The Force Unleashed

When he reached the base of the skyhook, he was momentarily given pause. How to bring about the ruin of six constructs several stories high? Their super-strong materials were designed to handle the stresses of holding the massive station directly above, against all the laws of physics. How could he overcome their resistance?

The answer, as always, lay in the Force. The Force was beyond physics. The Force could not be resisted, when wielded by confident hands. The Force would always be sufficient.

Turning his back on the body-strewn battlefield, he put both hands on the base of the nearest mooring. Closing his eyes and his mind to all forms of distraction, he imagined himself at one with the metal, permacrete, and stone. He felt the mooring’s strengths and its weaknesses. He resonated with it, until it was hard to tell where his hands stopped and the mooring began.

When he could achieve no greater focus, he reached out for the dark side and let it guide him.

Energy came like a dam bursting, as wild as every predator on Kashyyyk combined but as pure as a laser. He tilted his head back and relished the wonder and terror of what he had brought into being. This was a power far greater than Sith lightning, designed for one single task. He lost himself utterly in that task. He became destruction.

The mooring shook. Its more delicate components—nanowires, sensitive self-regulating systems, microscopic hydraulic channels—fused almost immediately. Once the complex processes maintaining its stability were disrupted, a chain reaction began that could not be stopped. Pressures mounted in areas close to exceeding their maximum load; hairline cracks formed and spread; a deep vibration sprang up that could not be dampened. Even if left to its own devices, the mooring would shake itself to pieces in minutes.

The Apprentice maintained his assult until hairline cracks became gaping rents and the vibrations shook the world, howling material agony over the renewed firing of blaster cannons. When the first shower of boiling dust and pebble-sized fragments rained down on him, he decided it was time to step back and take stock--and to prevent some hapless stormtrooper creeping up on him and shooting him in the back.

He opened his eyes and looked up. The mooring was barely recognizable as the same structure.
-- The Force Unleashed

It was already over, but the Core still had some fight left. Hundreds of slave droids converged on the apprentice, hoping to crush him under their combined weight before he could reach the nearest processor. He blew them away with a single push and slashed open the processor’s casing. Ignoring the hot metal edges, he pushed his left hand into the workings inside.
-- The Force Unleashed

With one powerful release of kinetic energy, he exploded the bull rancor’s head from within.

Immediately he was falling. A torrent of blood and vile liquids rushed up the gaping throat, sweeping him out onto the field of bones. Blinking, gagging, he barely retained a grip on his lightsaber as the massive headless body dropped to the ground behind him with a mighty, wet crash.
-- The Force Unleashed

Behind him, triggered telekinetically, the downed AT-AT exploded, expending all its stored munitions in one blistering blast. Instead of destroying everything nearby, the blast was channeled along the trench and upward, enclosing the two nearby walkers, the stormtroopers firing from the guardrails, and the approaching TIE fighters. A new series of explosions followed the first, and the apprentice felt the superstructure kick beneath him. Fiery debris rained around them as they finally reached the hatch and threw themselves inside.
-- The Force Unleashed

These are pre-cloning pre-prime Galen feats, far from his best.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Why is it when Starkiller does something once, it's an outlier, but when someone is in TOR does something once it's super valid?

It's because we have contradictory levels of power running rampant in TFU. Also it's entire premise is that it's an over the top portrayal.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Star Destroyer.

I see. As I recall, every other one of Vaylin's TK feats involved Force pushing people and making an impromptu shield out of a moderately sized piece of bridge.

I guess we can safely disregard her building feat on the same grounds?

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Originally posted by Nephthys
It's because we have contradictory levels of power running rampant in TFU. Also it's entire premise is that it's an over the top portrayal.

Lol, because in SWTOR it doesn't? How about Senya beating Vaylin, Heskal stomping Senya, The Outlander beating Heskal, The Outlander + Lana not being a match for Vaylin.

And only the game was over the top for TFU, the novels aren't. That's why they were higher level of canon. Same level as SWTOR, so that's a poor excuse.

Plus Hayden Blackman said 'Killer was meant to be one of the most powerful Force users of all time. Dude was conceived as a powerhouse from start to finish.

So... Yeah.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Star Destroyer.
Why would anyone bother with that when Starkiller is atomising frigates. 😬

It's not exactly his best feat.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's because we have contradictory levels of power running rampant in TFU. Also it's entire premise is that it's an over the top portrayal.
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Originally posted by Beniboybling
Why would anyone bother with that when Starkiller is atomising frigates. 😬

That's an outlier, you can't use that.

The Starkiller respect in this thread, is most pleasing. excellent

Guys, do you think we have the authority to use the Outlier dodge or is that a SWTOR copyright? mmm

Come to think of it, the best we see from Bane after destroying the Lehon temple is throwing some furniture. Outlier feat?

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Originally posted by Beniboybling
Come to think of it, the best we see from Bane after destroying the Lehon temple is throwing some furniture. Outlier feat?

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