Originally posted by McPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCYDE_BIilo
He states here, that Malak is superior duelist to Yoda.
He merely states that he considers Malak to be superior because he created and uses a hybrid style while Yoda sticks to Ataru. That is not unreasonable.
He also stated that Yoda would win in an actual duel against Malak.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Also, jensaarai is... ugh I can't.
Jensaarai1 is an absolute genius. He has a great imagination.
Originally posted by chilled monkey
He merely states that he considers Malak to be superior because he created and uses a hybrid style while Yoda sticks to Ataru. That is not unreasonable
It kind of is. Dooku "stuck" with Makashi but his single-form focus made him one of the most skilled duelists ever born. Using a single form doesn't make you lesser than someone who uses several.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I... I can't even...No.
Yes.
Jensaarai1 has an amazing talent for determining Jedi & Sith's most likely fighting styles and tactical inclinations, even when he has little material to go on. Consider for example his "Lord Vindican Vs. Luminara Unduli" video where he was able to deliver a detailed analysis on a character that has had only a single appearance in a cinematic trailer.
His videos are a great source of inspiration to me and have been very helpful when considering what a characters fighting style would be like, how various influences and experiences would have shaped them, how they would respond to different scenarios and such for writing my fanfictions/original fictions, not only Star Wars but others as well.
So I really don't get what people here have against him.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It kind of is. Dooku "stuck" with Makashi but his single-form focus made him one of the most skilled duelists ever born. Using a single form doesn't make you lesser than someone who uses several.
If he had said something like "Malak's better. He wins" then you'd have a point, but he didn't. He stated that Yoda would win the actual duel. It's just a question of differentiating between who's better "on paper" and how the duel would actually go.
Also, from a purely "on paper" stance, a hybrid style is generally more effective than a single textbook one as it gives you more options and makes you less predictable.
@chilled monkey. You obviously need to take a step back. I like their videos as a source of entertainment at best. The only one I would say that actaully deserves this much respect/defense is Antoine, as not only are his the least amount biased, he's the coolest, he branches out more, and he doesn't say to m uh stupid stuff. Evan and Jensari and Reti are the ones behind saying Sidious is sloppy, mid level council master skill level when he has contended with their best, don't actaully think and use the either information with more quality(higher form of canon) etc. They also have some of the worst verdicts. So yea stop right now and duck your head in shame and move on and stop this. If you were defending Antoine I wouldn't say anything but you aren't.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
@chilled monkey. You obviously need to take a step back. I like their videos as a source of entertainment at best. The only one I would say that actaully deserves this much respect/defense is Antoine, as not only are his the least amount biased, he's the coolest, he branches out more, and he doesn't say to m uh stupid stuff.
I have explained very clearly why Jensaarai1 (also EvanNova95 and Reti4) deserve respect.
Antonine Bandele is awesome too.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
@Evan and Jensari and Reti are the ones behind saying Sidious is sloppy, mid level council master skill level when he has contended with their best,
Sorry to burst your bubble but yes, Palpatine IS sloppy. He was able to "contended with their best" mainly because of Force Empowerment (especially speed), not skill with a blade.
If you want proof of his sloppy technique watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8uXBdCIsrU
Notice how through a lot of this fight he's just flailing his blades around gracelessly? Also look closely at 1:42 and 2:11. A real duellist would NEVER do that because it wouldn't work due to lack of leverage. Palpatine is only able to pull it off because of Force Empowerment.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
@ don't actaully think
Those guys think a lot more than you or most of the bozos on this forum.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
@ They also have some of the worst verdicts.
I don't really care about verdicts. I just like the analyses.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
@So yea stop right now and duck your head in shame and move on and stop this.
The only one who should "duck their head in shame" is you.
Notice how through a lot of this fight he's just flailing his blades around gracelessly? Also look closely at 1:42 and 2:11. A real duellist would NEVER do that because it wouldn't work due to lack of leverage. Palpatine is only able to pull it off because of Force Empowerment.
The show makes it explicitly clear he's toying around with two master swordsman. That's the degree of his skill.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66Uh, Palpatine had the leverage the entire fight. He could do whatever he wanted and did precisely that. [/B]
Uh, you need to get a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "leverage."
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The show makes it explicitly clear he's toying around with two master swordsman. That's the degree of his skill. [/B]
People keep using the "he was toying with them" excuse but that doesn't fly. The fact is that if Palpatine didn't have Force-enhanced strength that move wouldn't work. What would happen is his own blades would get pushed into his back.
So no, there's no skill at all. Just Force power.
It's pretty sad how fanboys are so deluded they ignore the actual facts even when they're explained to them.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Irrelevant.
Nope.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Palpatine's fighting style is based around the assumption that he does possess massively superhuman capabilities.
And he relies WAY too heavily on them, leading to sloppy technique. Give the Hulk an unbreakable sword and he can chop things to bits. Give the Flash a sword and he can cut down practically anyone. Doesn't make either of them skilled, just immensely strong/fast.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Him training to fight as if he were a decrepit old man would be both laughable and redundant.
So you think using actual skill and effective technique constitutes fighting like a "decrepit old man?" That's what you're saying?
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Stop making a fool of yourself and take your L, as Ant would put it.
The only ones making fools of themselves are you and the other fanboys. Even when the facts are explained to you, still you can't get over your delusions.
Originally posted by chilled monkey
I have explained very clearly why Jensaarai1 (also EvanNova95 and Reti4) deserve respect.Antonine Bandele is awesome too.
Sorry to burst your bubble but yes, Palpatine IS sloppy. He was able to "contended with their best" mainly because of Force Empowerment (especially speed), not skill with a blade.
If you want proof of his sloppy technique watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8uXBdCIsrU
Notice how through a lot of this fight he's just flailing his blades around gracelessly? Also look closely at 1:42 and 2:11. A real duellist would NEVER do that because it wouldn't work due to lack of leverage. Palpatine is only able to pull it off because of Force Empowerment.
Those guys think a lot more than you or most of the bozos on this forum.
I don't really care about verdicts. I just like the analyses.
The only one who should "duck their head in shame" is you.
I'm going to level with you. They deserve respect for the effort and time put into the videos yes, but in cases like the Sidious isn't invincible, while I agree he isn't they brought a lot of bad points, with bad information.
Actaully no he isn't sloppy. You can't provide one showing that shows he's sloppy. Maul and Savage vs Sidious- He Wasnt even sloppy in that fight, he was very much fluid, and aggressive. Any moment you can say he was sloppy, they themselves admit the was toying around with them, so he's not going to appear as refined as you may think. However it takes skill to contend with Windu the way he did, and skill to counter(partially) the disadvantage he had agaisnt Yoda, so he's he has skill, he is a master of all 7 forms, and second only to Yoda by ROTS and then Luke when he reaches his prime.
Think to get wrong verdicts and analysis then yes they probably do.
You do understand to get the verdict they need the analysis right? If the verdict is wrong then the analysis is also most likely wrong.
Not sure why I should duck my head, I'm trying to help you. Now that I think about it trying to help you is a reason to duck my head in shame.
Chilled, just a question:
You're on a forum where everyone, and I mean everyone, disagrees with you, and most people think you are outright mentally retarded.
The very way everyone debates on this board, and every forum board, is drastically, and I mean drastically, different than Jensaarai1.
You claiming that Jensaarai1 is more knowledgeable and intelligent than us is not only absurd, but it's to be expected to come with a lot of backlash.
We've read more books and comics. We've watched more shows and played more video games. We know more characters and what they've accomplished.
So, then, I ask you, what do you really hope to prove here? To defend Jensaarai1 and his knowledge on Star Wars?
Like, you've literally called on this thread some of the best Star Wars debaters ever who would literally rape Jensaarai1 "fanboys", man.
Whatever you're trying to do, you're pretty ****ing terrible at it. But please don't stop. This is extremely amusing to see your retardation.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah real geniuses putting Plo Koon and Shaak Ti solidly above Maul and Anakin. And claiming the B-Team were a bad match against Sidious simply due to their Saber forms.
Originally posted by chilled monkey
Maul is questionable but with Anakin they were spot-on. Anakin is too reckless and hot-headed. Plo and Ti are better tacticians.