Darth Sidious is not invincible

I'm near the end and they're stating that Obi-Wan, Plo Koon or Shaak Ti could solo contend with Sidious and that if they were with Windu, he'd have been annihilated cuz "it doesn't matter who he attacks, he's getting stonewalled."

Anakin is also a tier below these guys as well.

Satele is a good fight for Sidious and Ommin is a better fight for him than Exar Kun.

As the big, 'multi on one is a big advantage for the multi' person here, someone who has handled some of the roughest multi-on-one matchups and came out looking good impresses me.

I believe that if Sidious was nicer to the people in the Star Wars Universe, that people there would like him more and not think he's such a meanie.

I never took Jensaarai seriously, glad I don't have to change my mind now.

"Yeah Sidious beat Maul but Maul.... Maul is not a tier 2 council member duelist! He just isn't! We know this! He can't beat Obi-Wan, he can't beat Plo Koon, he can't beat Shaak Ti. No chance. No chance..... Maul is laughable compared to Jaina, he's a JOKE compared to Krayt and all these other people who can contend with them!"

Originally posted by Nephthys
"Yeah Sidious beat Maul but Maul.... Maul is not a tier 2 council member duelist! He just isn't! We know this! He can't beat Obi-Wan, he can't beat Plo Koon, he can't beat Shaak Ti. No chance. No chance..... Maul is laughable compared to Jaina, he's a JOKE compared to Krayt!"

Originally posted by Nephthys
"Yeah Sidious beat Maul but Maul.... Maul is not a tier 2 council member duelist! He just isn't! We know this! He can't beat Obi-Wan, he can't beat Plo Koon, he can't beat Shaak Ti. No chance. No chance..... Maul is laughable compared to Jaina, he's a JOKE compared to Krayt and all these other people who can contend with them!"

He can't beat Kenobi, but he can sure as heck give Kenobi a very good fight, in a way that, once reduced to one-on-one, he couldn't against Sidious.

I'd say Maul can beat Kenobi, personally. He's very comparable in skill, imo more skilled, he's more powerful, he's strong, fast etc. He just screws himself a bit in his tactics, his personality gets in the way and his style clashes with Obi-Wan's a lot. Obi-Wan gets the upper hand despite being basically inferior. Maul should take a near equal number of wins imo.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm near the end and they're stating that Obi-Wan, Plo Koon or Shaak Ti could solo contend with Sidious and that if they were with Windu, he'd have been annihilated cuz "it doesn't matter who he attacks, he's getting stonewalled."

Anakin is also a tier below these guys as well.

Satele is a good fight for Sidious and Ommin is a better fight for him than Exar Kun.

Originally posted by Nephthys
"Yeah Sidious beat Maul but Maul.... Maul is not a tier 2 council member duelist! He just isn't! We know this! He can't beat Obi-Wan, he can't beat Plo Koon, he can't beat Shaak Ti. No chance. No chance..... Maul is laughable compared to Jaina, he's a JOKE compared to Krayt and all these other people who can contend with them!"

Oh my god lol.

Was that Reti4 or Jen?

It was pretty much all of them. Nova and Jen mostly.

You know who else is a better duelist than Sidious? Savage Oppress.

Another Gem: "If your able to contend with Sidious' Force power, any mid-tier council member can defeat him!" - Evannova.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Was that Reti4 or Jen?

I don't know about you, but i read that in Jen's voice.

Honestly the amount of ridiculousness from Jensaarai is unsurprising, especially considering how he's a mod(?) on Wookieepedia, he obviously goes by the descriptions there and ignores everything else.

If anything's laughable, it's him as debater.

Started watching it. Funny how they all laughed their heads off when addressing the topic of Palpatine's physicality.

Also apparently being more powerful has little to do with winning a fight.

The stuff Neph shared in this thread was horrifying tbh.

2 and a half hours... Jesus christ.

Originally posted by Nephthys
"My problem isn't with the speed itself, it's the disparity between his and theirs.[b] I don't care how powerful Sidious is, there is no way he could move faster than these veteran Jedi Masters could react. I'm not saying they had any chance of surviving, it just wouldn't have been a split second defeat is all."

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Can't disagree with them there. I've always hated that, these guys are Jedi Masters they should be able to but up some kind of fight and not come across as talentless fools. Not to mention it would make the duel a whole lot more exiting.

I haven't heard many good things about TCW anyway.

Originally posted by ares834
2 and a half hours... Jesus christ.

Can't disagree with them there. I've always hated that, these guys are Jedi Masters they should be able to but up some kind of fight and not come across as talentless fools. Not to mention it would make the duel a whole lot more exiting.

Hey, I agree it was shitty but saying that theres no way Sidious *could* do that is dumb.

When I saw the title of the video, I had some hope for it. When I started watching the video... no.

Yeah, there is some merit to what they're saying. Sidious isn't perfect and there are flaws he possesses. They make a few small points that I agreed with.

Mostly they're just shitting on him tho.