Darth Sidious is not invincible

Started by chilled monkey16 pages

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes, the guy who held off Savage Oppress with one hand isn't gonna win with physical force.

Oh wait how did Savage die again???? Didn't Sidious stun him with a kick or something??? Nah, that never happened.

Originally posted by Q99
His performance against the council members sent against him, and Maul, and Savage- who he literally beat while looking the other way, says otherwise.

You do realise, don't you, that all that stuff was done through Force Enhancement?

The point they were making was that WITHOUT Force Enhancement, Palpatine can't win with physical force. Suppose there were a bunch of ysalamiri in that chamber. Do you really think Palpatine could stun Oppress with a kick then?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Also apparently being more powerful has little to do with winning a fight.

It doesn't. Skill, cunning and brains win fights and will usually beat someone "more powerful."

Goliath was "more powerful" than David. Look at how that worked out.

Without force enhancement he's a geriatric.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
You do realise, don't you, that all that stuff was done through Force Enhancement?

The point they were making was that WITHOUT Force Enhancement, Palpatine can't win with physical force.

Issue is, that applies to every single Jedi. Without the Force, they're just muggles who can't even wield their own weapons properly.

It doesn't. Skill, cunning and brains win fights and will usually beat someone "more powerful."

Then it's a good thing Palpatine possesses more skill, cunning, and power than just about anyone.

Has anyone actually gone through the entire video other than Neph?

Originally posted by carthage
Has anyone actually gone through the entire video other than Neph?

Me and it was 😘

Originally posted by carthage
Has anyone actually gone through the entire video other than Neph?

I did when I was bored. It was pretty meh, to be perfectly honest.

Originally posted by Aurbere
I did when I was bored. It was pretty meh, to be perfectly honest.

They had some good points under 3 tons of idiotic bias.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
They had some good points under 3 tons of idiotic bias.

Isn't that always the case for these guys? Save Antoine.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Issue is, that applies to every single Jedi. Without the Force, they're just muggles who can't even wield their own weapons properly.

Ulik Qel-Droma?

Originally posted by carthage
Has anyone actually gone through the entire video other than Neph?

Yep. I agree with what they said about Sidious's martial art skill to some degree, but their assessment of the Mace Vs Sidious fight killed me. Also, Anakin below Kenobi, Plo and Ti? Still can't believe Jensaaurai saying Dooku isn't top tier.

Maul beneath Plo Koon is some BS as well LOL

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Maul beneath Plo Koon is some BS as well LOL
Dude, Maul can't even beat Kenobi, LOL. How do you expect him to take down Plo Koon? You're ridiculous if you think Maul is capable of such a feat.

If Plo hadn't turned his head to warn that guy, he could've soloed Savage and Maul at once tbh

Originally posted by Emperordmb
If Plo hadn't turned his head to warn that guy, he could've soloed Savage and Maul at once tbh
Savage is a dumb brute with virtually no skill, and Maul is just ill-equipped to deal with a high-tier Jedi (Plo Koon).

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Savage is a dumb brute with virtually no skill, and Maul is just ill-equipped to deal with a high-tier Jedi (Plo Koon).

He takes definitely takes physicality against Plo. Koon takes Force. Not sure about dueling.

Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
Ulik Qel-Droma?

Ulic* Quel*

The difference in his case is that he's had decades to adjust to his loss of the Force; other Jedi would be less fortunate if stripped of it. Even then, while he is capable with one, he still probably lacked the capacity to wield it properly. He certainly had no chance at besting Sylvar.

Quel?

You have quelled him.

Originally posted by carthage
Has anyone actually gone through the entire video other than Neph?

I did and it was MAGNIFICENT! Intelligent, entertaining and thought-provoking. Everything they said was absolutely right.

The idiot fanboys should try turning their brains on for a change and watching that video. They'd learn a lot. Yes it's long but its definitely worth it.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Issue is, that applies to every single Jedi.

No it doesn't, seeing as the vast majority of Jedi are highly trained athletes and fighters. Even the older ones are usually in excellent shape. When Han Solo planned to use ysalamiri against Kueller, Mara Jade specifically warned him not to assume it would be an automatic win.

Palpatine by contrast is not only elderly but hasn't exercised in years.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Then it's a good thing Palpatine possesses more skill, cunning, and power than just about anyone.

Nope. More power and cunning maybe, but definitely not more skill. They explained that very clearly in the video. Watch it, you'll learn a lot.

You might legitimately be retarded.