Lizard vs Ronan

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I just personally feel he lacks feats. Which is why I was pissed off when they killed him. 😠

He had potential to be a great recurring villain in the MCU.

A lot of my reasoning comes from he could handle the gem. And also that Thanos is going to be able to as well. Thanos was named the most powerful person in the universe, so I know Ronan is up there in the mix. No one can just handle the infinity stone the way he did. It was pretty boss.

As far as Drax not being at 100%, do you honestly think it would have changed the fight if he was? I just don't see it. The fight reminded me of Loki vs Cap.

Technically he only handled it long enough to put it in his weapon. We've actually even seen Ultron harness the power of the Mind Gem to mind control someone, and he was AI. Granted, handling the gem even that long makes him more exceptional than most, but the same can be said for Peter Quill, and we know Ronan would murder his ass in an H2H fight.

I still think that Ronan would have won, and probably quite handily, but I feel like Drax would have been more co-ordinated, performed better, and lasted longer. Look what Drax did to Korath when he was fighting sober, another Kree working for Ronan.

I don't think being able to handle a gem is the best reflection of physical power for another reason as well. Consider Malekith. With the Aether (an infinity stone he wielded without any hassles) he was going to black out the entire universe. Without it, he got his ass kicked by Thor's mom.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Oh please, this isn't a rebuttal, lets not be silly.

Thats like saying Loki's armor is what stopped Captain from beating him.

Yes it as, as armor is made to protect and we're specifically talking about Ronan's shown durability. Might as well say that Tony's armor had not bearing on how well Tony took hits from Thor.

Loki's "armor" was mostly cloth and a leather coat; that's not comparable to Ronan's hard plates. Also, Loki was actually hit in the face by Cap, wasn't trying to defeat Cap as per his plan to get captured and he has other durability feats supporting his level of toughness. So not sure why you used this comparison.

Quill held that stone for a bit. Just saying...

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes it as, as armor is made to protect and we're specifically talking about Ronan's shown durability. Might as well say that Tony's armor had not bearing on how well Tony took hits from Thor.

Loki's "armor" was mostly cloth and a leather coat; that's not comparable to Ronan's hard plates. Also, Loki was actually hit in the face by Cap, wasn't trying to defeat Cap as per his plan to get captured and he has other durability feats supporting his level of toughness. So not sure why you used this comparison.

Your response is extremely late, and therefore does not count.

Sorry.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I don't think being able to handle a gem is the best reflection of physical power for another reason as well. Consider Malekith. With the Aether (an infinity stone he wielded without any hassles) he was going to black out the entire universe. Without it, he got his ass kicked by Thor's mom.

Well remember that front line canon fodder that touched it and blew up?😂

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Well remember that front line canon fodder that touched it and blew up?😂

Guess that wasn't the best example I chose. But consider that Star-lord, despite having greater durability than any normal human does (most likely due to his hybrid heritage), is still one of the relatively physically weaker/less durable Guardians. Yet he showed greater resistance to the Power stone than any of the other Guardians did. This, to me, implies that the requirements to wield one of those and not blow up like a pinyata involves elements that go beyond simple conventional durability. So it isn't really the best example of measuring traditional physical power.

I think Star Lord would have still blown up without his friends sharing the power. Thats the way it was heading.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I think Star Lord would have still blown up without his friends sharing the power. Thats the way it was heading.

Chances are if Ronan had just kept holding the Gem instead of sticking it in his hammer he would have blown up eventually too. Point still stands though. We know someone like Drax would thrash Quill in an H2H fight, as he is a lot stronger and more durable, yet we saw that Quill handled much greater exposure to the Gem than Drax did. It seems to be more a case of possessing the right genetic markers or something, rather than having a specific level of physical toughness.

I see what you are saying. Anyways, you ready for Fall Out 4?

I am quite excited for it. But half the people I know keep saying that they are more interested in building up settlements than playing the main quest. 😆 I prefer the simple things like running through the wastelands and knocking raiders around with a super sledge. It's like raider golf. Can't wait to to see how it plays in fallout 4.

You can build settlements in this one?

You can do all kinds of crazy shit in this one. They have pushed everything to a new level from Skyrim. Just check this:

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