Originally posted by Stoic
Nah. If we placed them in present day comparisons, they simply don't add up. Val was a weakling, and the characters that he beat up on were weak as well. I mean if we imagine that present day characters easily one shot planets, while Val struggles to destroy one. Heck WW Hulk could one shot a planet alone, and Nul was supposed to be an amped version of WW Hulk. PC characters don't stack up properly in order to lace them in versus threads with current day characters.
Nope.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superboy Prime was a PC guy transplanted to the modern age...Which are not comics. They are manga - very distinctly different, not just in construction, but style as well. Hence, not allowed.
Proof that it was Prime that fought PC Validus? In that case how would Prime stack up to the latest version of Validus?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superboy Prime was a PC guy transplanted to the modern age...Which are not comics. They are manga - very distinctly different, not just in construction, but style as well. Hence, not allowed.
True. SBP is basically what would happen if a PC character were to jump into the modern age.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superboy Prime was a PC guy transplanted to the modern age...Which are not comics. They are manga - very distinctly different, not just in construction, but style as well. Hence, not allowed.
Last time I made a Star Wars vs Marvel character it was closed because of comparison issues. Is it so hard to grasp for you, that PC characters can not be compared to current day characters? Yes or no, and we'll end it on that note. PC can not be compared to anything written these days. I mean not one thing. The very steel back in those days was used to tow planets that looked smaller than houses. I mean how big were the people that lived on these planets?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I never said it was Prime that fought PC Validus..... 😕
Well then if it wasn't Prime that fought PC Val, I guess we have nothing to go on then. We would have nothing to compare PC characters with present day ones, thus you bringing Prime into this mean nothing to me. The fact that Val sat there struggling to tear a planet apart, compared to modern day characters one shot killing planets makes me believe that Val was a weak feeb. I mean what can i actually compare him to? maybe those particular PC characters would be weak if taken out of their reality and placed into a present day reality.
Originally posted by Stoic
Last time I made a Star Wars vs Marvel character it was closed because of comparison issues. Is it so hard to grasp for you, that PC characters can not be compared to current day characters? Yes or no, and we'll end it on that note. PC can not be compared to anything written these days. I mean not one thing. The very steel back in those days was used to tow planets that looked smaller than houses. I mean how big were the people that lived on these planets?
They can't be compared in the same way that Toonforce Lobo, or the Mask, or Toonforce She-Hulk can't be compared.
They can still be used in threads, though.
Superboy Prime was Silver Age. So was the old Superman, Kal-L. As was Alexander Luthor. So we can have a rough estimate of them
Originally posted by Stoic
Well then if it wasn't Prime that fought PC Val, I guess we have nothing to go on then. We would have nothing to compare PC characters with present day ones, thus you bringing Prime into this mean nothing to me. The fact that Val sat there struggling to tear a planet apart, compared to modern day characters one shot killing planets makes me believe that Val was a weak feeb. I mean what can i actually compare him to? maybe those particular PC characters would be weak if taken out of their reality and placed into a present day reality.
Your original point was that PC characters can't stack up.
I named SBP.
You then can't understand why I brought him up?
Originally posted by Cogito
Val doesn't just have ridiculous durability feats against PC Kryptonians, he's also laughably stronger than PC Kryptonians, has mental energy powers, and fought a Sun eater that was destroying a galaxy.His feats are far beyond the Serpent too
Based on the characters that he fought, they could could have all been weaklings. Everything about the PC era was off. Steel back then was meant to be as strong as steel, and yet a steel chain was able to tow multiple planets as far as the eye could see. There is nothing that can be compared of those days to these days, which is why no argument can really be made. The very substance that the physical PC universe was made up to make no sense. If a steel chain could tow multiple planets as far as the eye could see, then I can only guess that that very same steel chain could also destroy galaxies. But then when we look at things, steel was just steel back then. My point again, is that we can not compare that era to this era of comics, because no argument can be made to draw comparisons from. PC characters had no continuity to them, and could be written to be as powerful as the story needed them to be. This is why PC should be banned from forum discussions, unless they are being compared to other PC characters.
You can't even compare PC DC to current DC. I mean Val was unable to destroy a planet with ease, yet he goes on to beat Kryptonians capable of towing multiple planets with a steel link chain. Whatever.