Colossus vs Midnighter

Started by -Pr-9 pages

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
[b]@Pr

From Comicbookdb:

http://comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=44505

Issue 21, not 22. [/B]

it's actually both 😛

Originally posted by -K-M-
He was not, the fighting stopped completely when the weather got out of control. From the text "enough of the fury gets through to bring the [b]battle to a screeching halt" (Storm then rushes to calm the storm). Notice everyone was standing around and even Wolverine and Guardian were in the exact same position (same for cyclops and Northstar). We don't know what happened, but we do know the fighting stopped as per the text

People put way to much stock saying the "tide was turning" too. Only reason Colossus landed the judo toss as walter was being cocky. Walter being the genius is he is would allow him to do that again? Unlikely

His punches were literally doing nothing earlier, don't see why they would do anything of note now even if he was hitting him while he was on the ground

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Colossus still knocked him on his ass either way.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'd like to see the Strong Guy being called a 3rd rate Colossus scan again. Can't find it anywhere.
Originally posted by -Pr-
it's actually both 😛

Ah. So the hospital scene happens in 22, right?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ah. So the hospital scene happens in 22, right?

Yeah; that's why I missed it, as I had only read 21.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Colossus still knocked him on his ass either way.

By a judo toss when Walter was being cocky and treating him like a child... Is it really that impressive? 😬

Originally posted by -K-M-
By a judo toss when Walter was being cocky and treating him like a child... Is it really that impressive? 😬

shrug

It's not like he knocked him out, but cockiness can lose fights. I mean, what part of him knocking him down is so bad to you?

I think he's mad Colossus dropped him again after the judo toss.

Originally posted by -Pr-
shrug

It's not like he knocked him out, but cockiness can lose fights. I mean, what part of him knocking him down is so bad to you?

Nothing, except it's the Colossus fans that keep saying he would have knocked him out and some huge tide was turning and was pounding him (yes, this happens regularly hence why I already had that post prepared) and putting way to much stock in a toss.

he just proved my point...

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I think he's mad Colossus dropped him again after the judo toss.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I think he's mad Colossus dropped him again after the judo toss.

Clearly you didn't read the text or your choosing to ignore it which isn't the first for you

It is an old argument, yes. I'm fed up with seeing it all the time, tbh.

We do see Walter on his knees and Piotr apparently wailing on him, though.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It is an old argument, yes. I'm fed up with seeing it all the time, tbh.

We do see Walter on his knees and Piotr apparently wailing on him, though.

Again the fighting stopped as per the text prior to the last panel. So everyone else stopped moving (same pose and everything) and stopped fighting yet those two kept fighting? Colossus is still in the same pose, which is more then likely the artist was supposed to have walter still on his knees from the judo toss in the second last scan.

TBH, I wouldn't argue that Colossus was going to win. I would say though, that he was starting to hold his own, which is in itself a decent feat.

Originally posted by -Pr-
TBH, I wouldn't argue that Colossus was going to win. I would say though, that he was starting to hold his own, which is in itself a decent feat.

far more logical opinion 👆

I just said the tide turned to his favor.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I just said the tide turned to his favor.

That would mean winning, and you said he would have won and was beating pounding Sasquatch in other threads.

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Originally posted by juggernaut74
Teenage Colossus was kicking oldschool Walter's @ss.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Sasquatch was getting his @ss beat in that very last scan. Or maybe it was his head but you get the point.

He may not have won I'll say that now but he was pounding on a downed Sasquatch when the fight stopped.

Also this was a teenage Colossus who wasn't even trying his hardest as Stilt originally brought up. And this was depicted in the next issue.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
He may not have won I'll say that now but he was pounding on a downed Sasquatch when the fight stopped.

Also this was a teenage Colossus who wasn't even trying his hardest as Stilt originally brought up. And this was depicted in the next issue.

Well at least you changed your opinion, that deserves credit. The last panel still doesn''t add up with the story as the fighting stopped long before the last panel and everyone else were in the exact same positions except those two for some reason. As I and others have suspected the 2nd last scan of them we see Walter should have still been on the ground from the judo toss and the last scan would have been a continuation of it.

Neither was Walter, hence why he was joking around and not taking the fight serious

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
There it is. What issue was this?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
There it is. What issue was this?

UXM #295.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Well at least you changed your opinion, that deserves credit. The last panel still doesn''t add up with the story as the fighting stopped long before the last panel and everyone else were in the exact same positions except those two for some reason. As I and others have suspected the 2nd last scan of them we see Walter should have still been on the ground from the judo toss and the last scan would have been a continuation of it.

Neither was Walter, hence why he was joking around and not taking the fight serious

You can assume what you want. I'll go with what I see on panel.