Arent they both pretty much the same thing? Beings that dont reside within the DC or Marvel multiverse and apparently have nothing better to do than f with everyone? How much more powerful can one be at this point? Both companies are getting stupid with this shit. Going by on panel feats Thor and Hype are like Universe buster.
Another being from another somewhere thats not in our universe with even more power somehow comes along and with nothing better to do puts the imps and beyonders on a superbattleworld.
That being then loses to Bat and Caps combined shieldkick.
Originally posted by h1a8How? This isn't post retcon beyonder right?
Originally posted by h1a8How? This isn't post retcon beyonder right?
Cosmic Containment Units (which become "sentient child units" or Cube beings)
are a "minute bit of energy" from the Beyonder Realm:
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These "minute bits of energy" empower cats like post-retcon Beyonder:
"The power I now possess reaches into the Past, the Future, All Time and Space"
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If one then says, well, that Beyonder scene is from 2010 therefore pre-Hickman ...
... well ... then we have post-Hickman ... where Slott & Allred re-confirm a Cosmic Cube's status: (2015)
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That's Silver Surfer creating the entire Universe from scratch using a Cube being's power. 👆
So ... how the hell do the Beyonders not control "Time?" ... 😐
When a "minute bit of their energy" can create the concepts of Space-Time from nothingness?
Originally posted by Mr MasterIt's especially odd considering that the "Secret Wars II" entry in Secret Wars - Official Guide to the Marvel Multiverse, which just came out this Wednesday, explicitly mentions Beyonder manipulating time with a very precise degree of control:
Hickman is really making no sense, or, he didn't do his homework, or there's more to explain.Cosmic Containment Units (which become "sentient child units" or Cube beings)
are a "minute bit of energy" from the Beyonder Realm:
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These "minute bits of energy" empower cats like post-retcon Beyonder:
"The power I now possess [b]reaches into the Past, the Future, All Time and Space
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If one then says, well, that Beyonder scene is from 2010 therefore pre-Hickman ...
... well ... then we have post-Hickman ... where Slott & Allred re-confirm a Cosmic Cube's status: (2015)
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That's Silver Surfer creating the entire Universe from scratch using a Cube being's power. 👆
So ... how the hell do the Beyonders not control "Time?" ... 😐
When a "minute bit of their energy" can create the concepts of Space-Time from nothingness? [/B]
And the same bio contains THE most current info in Marvel... Including the fact that Beyonder himself was a "child unit" in comparison to the rest of the race:
Whole bio:
http://i.imgur.com/NG5dBVK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TQdMllu.jpg
...So yeah, apparently Beyonder child units have some degree of control over time, but the higher-up Beyonders cannot manipulate it at all. Lol. /shrug
the whole 'they're linear beingzz and so now doom has a way to beat them!!1!!' was truly one of THE stupidest plot devices i've ever read and basically turned me off of the entire secret war travesty. there is no logical way to explain away that particular retardation. add in the showing with thor and hyperion vs the beyonders and the entire arc was just thrown into complete meltdown imo...
imps blink them out of existence. assuming they, unlike marvel's greatest, wisest and most powerful abstracts INFINITY among them), are capable of figuring out the very same weakness DR FRIGGIN DOOM was able to figure out..... i have no words to express the level of stupid that arc reached.
Originally posted by leonidas
the whole 'they're linear beingzz and so now doom has a way to beat them!!1!!' was truly one of THE stupidest plot devices i've ever read and basically turned me off of the entire secret war travesty. there is no logical way to explain away that particular retardation. add in the showing with thor and hyperion vs the beyonders and the entire arc was just thrown into complete meltdown imo...imps blink them out of existence. assuming they, unlike marvel's greatest, wisest and most powerful abstracts INFINITY among them), are capable of figuring out the very same weakness DR FRIGGIN DOOM was able to figure out..... i have no words to express the level of stupid that arc reached.
Did you read Convergence by any chance?
Originally posted by leonidas👆
the whole 'they're linear beingzz and so now doom has a way to beat them!!1!!' was truly one of THE stupidest plot devices i've ever read and basically turned me off of the entire secret war travesty. there is no logical way to explain away that particular retardation. add in the showing with thor and hyperion vs the beyonders and the entire arc was just thrown into complete meltdown imo...imps blink them out of existence. assuming they, unlike marvel's greatest, wisest and most powerful abstracts INFINITY among them), are capable of figuring out the very same weakness DR FRIGGIN DOOM was able to figure out..... i have no words to express the level of stupid that arc reached.
