^^ .. I don't see that, but it doesn't mean anything if it were the case:
Those "physical forms" are just shells containing their essence.
Originally posted by SquallXThere are many ways going about it, but instead Hickman decided to choke.
One ex. the heroes could have split up and gathers the most powerful weapons in the Multiverse. EG The Nulifier, The IG.
Or find a way to have TOAA come to the rescue.
TOAA appearing "on panel" means nothing really,
since they write themselves getting stomped by their artwork sometimes.
In a serious setting, I've only seen TOAA's power (directly/in-universe) on panel twice, and perhaps a third.
1) When LT confronted Warlock/IG (LT represented TOAA's power) this is obviously not always the case.
2) When Thanos acquired said power via the HOTI.
3) ... and this one is unofficial ... Scathan. Imo, and many others, TOAA's agent of some sort.
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I agree with your final solution though, it should've been a gathering of uber weapons/items/artifacts.
There are also several obscure cosmic powerhouses who were forgotten.
But really, the BeyonderS should've just fixed everything and called it an experiment. 👆
Hopefully Hickman will redeem himself by highlighting a stipulation behind these contradictions.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17It gets worse both of them continue to wade through Beyonders.
That's a scene of absolute over-kill.
If we're honest we realize we can't even tell what's going on in the artwork.
It's like emptying 2 clips into a person even though one bullet did the job. 'Gilding the lily' as they say.
They were getting stomped by just one Beyonder.
Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ I have to disagree here good friend.That's a scene of absolute over-kill.
If we're honest we realize we can't even tell what's going on in the artwork.
It's like emptying 2 clips into a person even though one bullet did the job. 'Gilding the lily' as they say.They were getting stomped by just one Beyonder.
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Originally posted by Mr Master
Well, the embodiments of Space and Time were helpless so ... controlling "time" isn't going to help here imo.
How do you mean?
It's not a vs thread. It's a thread asking who is more powerful.
One can do everything the other can - except one side can ALSO time travel. Which the other side, as per the most recent showings, explicitly cannot.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
So the official Top dogs would be.DC Marvel
1. Presence - TOAA
2. Primal Monitor - ?
3. Mxy - Beyonder Race as w a whole (Omniversal)
4. FP Spectre - LT (Omniversal/Current)
5. No name 5D imp - Beyonder pre-rec
6. Spectre (Average) - LT (Multiversal)
You forgot Non (An enemy of the Presence)
And Pralaya (Another enemy of the Presence). She was able to destroy all creation just like Chaos King.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I have to disagree here good friend.That's a scene of absolute over-kill.
If we're honest we realize we can't even tell what's going on in the artwork.
It's like emptying 2 clips into a person even though one bullet did the job. 'Gilding the lily' as they say.They were getting stomped by just one Beyonder.
Galan's scan.
Very next page they are still swatting away Beyonders as evidenced by the different positioning of Thor and Hype's attack.
Damn, I own the digital comic and didnt even notice those closeups, just looked like a ball of yonders. Pretty awesome for my fav hero.
Irregardless, same as Thor vs. Death senntry. He can destroy the body all day long, means nothing. That shell was only as strong as the Beyonder wanted it to be.
But yeah, its still silly a bit, it should have been abstracts making the last stand to save their universe,
I would have liked to see the high ups of the Universe band together and see more of them, and show fear etc. Maybe a few blasts that decimate galaxies, I dont know, put up a fight to save something that you have invested into and lived in for billions or trillions of years. I dont know, I just likebshit that makes sense. Wierd like that.
Anyway, Myx beats these beyonders and only stalemates their weaker child units.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17I agree. It was overkill. But it doesn't change the fact that they continued to swat oncoming Beyonders like they were rag dolls. Believe me I'm with you in that a whole army of Thors and Hyperions would eventually get spite stomped against one of these guys since destroying their physical form is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things, but come on... They never should have lasted as long as they did.
Galan's scan.
Very next page they are still swatting away Beyonders as evidenced by the different positioning of Thor and Hype's attack.
Originally posted by Galan007
...You can even see Beyonder parts/fragments in the vicinity, which tells us that Thor/Hype were literally shredding through them.
... oh Hickman, the only possible stipulation here
is that for whateva wtf reason the Beyonders manifest in vulnerable forms outside the Beyond Realm.
Perhaps this is why Owen had to "draw them out" of the Beyond Realm before blowing those Beyonders up?
Perhaps they stomped the hierarchy too quick for their forms to receive substantial damage?
Perhaps they jobbed and underestimated the heroes and Owen?
What do you think G?
