Revan is "far more powerful" than Darth Nihilus

Started by Jmanghan13 pages

There is also just more flat-out concrete evidence that points to Revan being more powerful.

I also believe being called the literal personification of power is better then being called irrationally powerful.

lol

Originally posted by Beniboybling
lol
Nice argument.

thanks, I was actually just laughing tho 🙂

Originally posted by SunRazer
Of course there's also the Exile confirming Nihilus > Revan in KotOR II.

Evidently, Revan still perceives the universe rationally, even if he's a tactical genius. Nihilus, on the other hand, has transcended rational, human perceptions.

The issue with this quote being used as an argument to put Nihilus>Revan is, where does it stop? You could use this quote to argue that Nihilus is above anyone who perceives the world rationally, which would include people like Valkorion and Sidious.

Originally posted by SunRazer
After being told about Nihilus' devastation of Katarr, the Exile can choose from a variety of options, such as:

"I don't understand how he hasn't conquered the galaxy with that kind of power."

"How can anyone have that kind of power?"

"His power is difficult to believe."

"How is he able to perform such slaughter?"

"That kind of power is impossible."

Given that the Exile has already been in Revan's presence before and the game suggests that the Exile knew of MW Revan's powers in person, it's obvious that this means that she thinks Nihilus >> Revan, since she doesn't even know how it's possible for Nihilus to be so powerful.


So?

In their last meeting he had overwhelmed Revan completely; it wasn't even fair to call it a battle. Revan had grown since then. He was far more powerful now, but was he a match for the Emperor?

Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan

Originally posted by SunRazer
And when you fight Nihilus:

And that does not proves your point.

Meetra Surik might have met the man (who would become Darth Nihilus in the future) during the Mandalorian Wars and was not expecting him to evolve into a being who could devastate worlds. The aforementioned dialogue (cited by you), confirms her skepticism. However, when she met him again as Darth Nihilus, she realized that he was far stronger than before. However, this still does not confirms that she also acknowledged the tale of Katarr. This is further apparent from the fact that the tale of Nathema was equally surprising to her.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Just as icing on the cake, the Jedi Masters obviously knew of Revan as a Jedi in person, and they fought him as Darth Revan (even capturing him), yet they say this of Nihilus:

Those Jedi Masters never fought (Darth) Revan in person, and neither they met Darth Nihilus in person. The devastation of Katarr convinced them of Darth Nihilus's immense power however. Still, they never compared Revan and Darth Nihilus in the aspect of strength.

In-fact, one of them stated this:

"The Force flows through you like no student we have ever seen."

Of-course, he had to give the impression to the guy he was talking to that he was a fresh (first-time) student. In-fact, this is a subtle admission from him that Revan was extraordinarily powerful in the ways of the Force, more-so than any other.

Then we also have statement of Kriea.

Originally posted by SunRazer
They're saying that Nihilus was so much more powerful than anybody else they had ever fought that they had no choice but to choose exile instead of fighting him. And obviously the Jedi don't take the threat of the Sith likely.

They dispatched a Jedi Strike Team to capture (Darth) Revan as well. They were reluctant to confront him as well.

None of your arguments dispel Surik's assessment of Revan (Reborn).

Commentator 1 ( John ): The mental gymnastics here have been incredible Joe.

Commentator 2 ( Joe ): Absolutely John, never have I seen such a spectacle of mental flexibility. This'll go down in the history books as one of the most elaborate performances in the Debating Games.

Audience: *Goes wild as Legend's tousled hair ruffles in the wind*

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nice Nova, very nice.

👆

Validated even more by Legend's rebuttal, too 🙂

Like seriously, Meetra met normal man Nihilus beforehand and was surprised that a regular guy could have such power later on. Lmfao.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And that does not proves your point.

Meetra Surik might have met the man (who would become Darth Nihilus in the future) during the Mandalorian Wars and was not expecting him to evolve into a being who could devastate worlds. The aforementioned dialogue (cited by you), confirms her skepticism. However, when she met him again as Darth Nihilus, she realized that he was far stronger than before.

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And that does not proves your point.

Meetra Surik might have met the man (who would become Darth Nihilus in the future) during the Mandalorian Wars and was not expecting him to evolve into a being who could devastate worlds. The aforementioned dialogue (cited by you), confirms her skepticism. However, when she met him again as Darth Nihilus, she realized that he was far stronger than before.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
LeGenD is a good debater
🙂

Lmao. 👆

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Like seriously, Meetra met normal man Nihilus beforehand and was surprised that a regular guy could have such power later on. Lmfao.

Where is it stated that Darth Nihilus was a normal man during Mandalorian Wars? My understanding is that he was a Force-user.

@Beni

I can understand your butthurt. Any praise I get must be painful for you to digest. Why don't you look yourself in the mirror? Perhaps you will notice something wrong there...in your head. 👆

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I can understand your butthurt. Any praise I get must be painful for you to digest. Why don't you look yourself in the mirror? 👆
😂

You left out the best part Beni.

"... in your head."

😂

Didn't catch that edit, lmfao.

Nihilus>Revan
There is no proof stating otherwise. It is pretty obvious that.

It's never specified whether Nihilus was a Jedi or not I don't believe.