Could a force user become as powerful as the celestials or the Ones?

I know that when you are one with the force physically while you are alive you can pretty much do anything. Examples of users are luke and jacen. This does not last forever though, like you can t always be in that state. I do believe that one could do it at will with enough practice however.

but we all know that no one in star wars was as powerful as the ones and the celestials but do you think someone grow become that powerful over time?

Force users in a state of Oneness are still apparently less powerful than the Ones. Luke Skywalker, the most powerful mortal force user, in a state of Oneness got smacked down by Abeloth.

Yes. If Vitiates ritual had succeeded, he'd have eclipsed them.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes. If Vitiates ritual had succeeded, he'd have eclipsed them.

Doubt it. The Ones appear to be universal entities, not a galactic one like Valkorion would become.

I lol at the idea of that tbh. Especially if we take Legends into account since Abeloth is just a dozen times more powerful than Luke who is probably a billion times inferior to a universal being.

Just a possibility, TBH. The Force expands to other galaxies and the Ones are the sole embodiments of it.

Abeloth being a dozen times more powerful than Skywalker is a classic example for the hyperbole.

For the record, I don't recognize Abeloth being on the playing field with the Ones. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Doubt it. The Ones appear to be universal entities, not a galactic one like Valkorion would become.

Ah, ES2 agrees with me.

mmm

Looks like I'm wrong, ROFL.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes. If Vitiates ritual had succeeded, he'd have eclipsed them.

Lulz.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Just a possibility, TBH. The Force expands to other galaxies and the Ones are the sole embodiments of it.

Abeloth being a dozen times more powerful than Skywalker is a classic example for the hyperbole.

For the record, I don't recognize Abeloth being on the playing field with the Ones. 👆

The whole universal thing seems more like hyperbole to me. Especially since we've seen some showings to place Abeloth more concretely compared to Ones who have absolutely no showings to suggest they're universal.

Didn't it take two of them to defeat her?

Well god damn it guys.

The Father defeated Abeloth on his own.

I obviously wasn't talking about the Father lol

😂

Originally posted by Sinious
I obviously wasn't talking about the Father lol

I was referring to the Son and the Daughter and lol @ the Ones being millions of times stronger than Abeloth.

Originally posted by Darth Demenos
I know that when you are one with the force physically while you are alive you can pretty much do anything. Examples of users are luke and jacen. This does not last forever though, like you can t always be in that state. I do believe that one could do it at will with enough practice however.

but we all know that no one in star wars was as powerful as the ones and the celestials but do you think someone grow become that powerful over time?

Yeah, they could, But as oneness shows. It's just a glimpse of something a celestial or universal being could achieve.

I honestly think that no one can achieve that state with tremendous power and a deadly consequence.

a great example of this is Dorsk 81. He had to draw on the focal points of power from yavin, and the power of notable Jedi like Solusar, Tionne, Streen, Kirana Ti, Horn and several more, and with that he was able to hurl a great number of Star Destroyers into another sector(i think)

So, force users could likely achieve the same result, but only with concentrated effort and a great reservoir of power. even then, they'd likely die due to their inability to control that power.

Originally posted by Sinious
I was referring to the Son and the Daughter and lol @ the Ones being millions of times stronger than Abeloth.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
They never defeated her, so...