Could a force user become as powerful as the celestials or the Ones?

Started by DarthAnt664 pages

It's heavily symbolic, IMO. They easily have the power to defeat her alone but only through the combined usage of the light and dark can chaos be tamed.

Even if we all agree on that, do you honestly believe that a One > Abeloth x millions?

Unless you're Anakin Skywalker, going into oneness is not putting you on the Ones' level. And I mean literally the next guy down in Force potential got smacked down by Abeloth in a state of oneness.

Re: Could a force user become as powerful as the celestials or the Ones?

Originally posted by Darth Demenos
I know that when you are one with the force physically while you are alive you can pretty much do anything. Examples of users are luke and jacen. This does not last forever though, like you can t always be in that state. I do believe that one could do it at will with enough practice however.

but we all know that no one in star wars was as powerful as the ones and the celestials but do you think someone grow become that powerful over time?


It is possible.

Valkorion represents a good case. He discovered methods to overcome his biological cap and have achieved immortality. He is a world-buster at the moment.

Darth Plagueis mused that Valkorion was heading in that* direction.

*That -> The Ones

The answer is an obvious and responding yes. After all, Anakin briefly surpassed them.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Unless you're Anakin Skywalker, going into oneness is not putting you on the Ones' level. And I mean literally the next guy down in Force potential got smacked down by Abeloth in a state of oneness.

i ve never read the books so how did he get smacked down if he was in oneness?

Originally posted by Darth Demenos
i ve never read the books so how did he get smacked down if he was in oneness?

Abeloth was simply more powerful than Luke even when he was in a state of Oneness.

Then there's another point in FOTJ where Ben Skywalker enters a state of Oneness and hits Abeloth with a TK blast as powerful as he can muster, but Abeloth is only knocked back a few centimeters.

Never.

Yes, but that plays heavily into what one perceives the Force as and how one views what Plagueis and Sidious did to make Anakin was and on and on.

Anyways, taking this question at complete and utter face-value, yes.

I found this particular storyline to be awful in the Star Wars mythos.

My argument is still not refuted. The Ones aren't uber universal beings. They're just a lot more powerful than any other character there is.

Only if we ignore what the Father says...

What does he say that would make you think the Ones are millions of times stronger than other characters?

He says they'd blow up the universe.

Oh wait, no he doesn't.

Originally posted by Sinious
What does he say that would make you think the Ones are millions of times stronger than other characters?

Originally posted by Nephthys
He says they'd blow up the universe.

Oh wait, no he doesn't.

He pretty much does. He says "that they could tear the very fabric of our universe."

Originally posted by Nephthys
He says they'd blow up the universe.

Oh wait, no he doesn't.

👆

Originally posted by ares834
He pretty much does. He says "that they could tear the very fabric of our universe."

Which doesn't mean they'd damage all of it. I could tear the fabric of my clothes, doesn't mean I shredded my whole outfit.

Originally posted by ares834
He pretty much does. He says "that they could tear the very fabric of our universe."
Could be interpreted in different ways. And lol @ taking one quote of one of them said while trying to convince Anakin to do something for him as a reliable source especially since all of their showings and their very nature of existence proves the opposite of that.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Which doesn't mean they'd damage all of it. I could tear the fabric of my clothes, doesn't mean I shredded my whole outfit.

Your shirt is destroyed though.

Beyond that you have the fact that these characters are the personifications of their respective sides of the force and that the entirety of the force flows though this planet (if the planet isn’t the force itself) which they command. With all that said, I think it’s clear that these characters aren’t meant to physically exist and that it’s meant to be basically a dream sequence but FotJ really ****ed that up.