Originally posted by Newjak
I think it is better than trying to isolate ourselves and keep people out.
Also should be pointed out that it's specific immigrants which are the issue, or as Bill Maher said it so eloquently years ago on his show: "if it was a bunch of blonde Swedes getting in, those people wouldn't care" (I paraphrased, as it was years ago)
Originally posted by Newjak
I think it is better than trying to isolate ourselves and keep people out.
When has any country or nation that just lets everyone in ever worked?
You do realize America is a tipping point.
Social Security will be a bust soon, as will Medicare.
We have almost 20 trillion in debt with no end in sight.
We can't make good trade deals. We can't win on trade.
Our deficits are skyrocketing.
We spent $43 million on a gas station in another country thats sure to be blown up in the next year.
We can't even feed the kids we have here.
Adding more to this system is good to you.
Explain that one.
How do you even justify that thinking?
Originally posted by Bardock42
You could easily feed the kids you have here. Republicans just refuse to. The US is doing well in basically every way, except where conservative policy is hurting American people on purpose.
God, you're so stupid. Money doesn't just grow on trees, idiot. US doing well in every way, my ass. LMAO. You haven't been over here in America grocery shopping lately have you? Inflation is already outrageous. I can just barely afford to feed myself on a monthly basis now and I get a decent amount of money per month too. Dude, seriously... just STFU. You don't know what in the Hell you're talking about when it comes to America as you've shown over and over and over and over yet again.
Originally posted by Star428
Yeah, LOL. I"m sure that acording to Bardock it was. If you looked up the word "clueless" in the dictionary I bet there'd be a picture of him.
Notice how none of the typical liberal posters refused to even post in that thread about the $43 million dollar gas station😂
They can't accept their Obama failed.
Originally posted by Star428
If you really liked America then you would want what is best for her. Electing another goddamned democrat would finish what Obama started: Destroying America. It would put the final nail in her coffin for sure.
But you know that Democrats think that what they are doing is best for America, right? I mean you disagree, and that's fair enough, but they think their way is better, they don't want to make America bad or anything.
Originally posted by Bardock42
But you know that Democrats think that what they are doing is best for America, right? I mean you disagree, and that's fair enough, but they think their way is better, they don't want to make America bad or anything.
They want a socialist so-called "utopia" and they will break any law to achieve it.. They don't care about the Constitution, God, individual rights, or any of the principles our Republic was founded on. They're about as anti-American as anyone can get.
Oh, they also want bigger government. Bigger government means less freedom for individuals.
As government expands, liberty contracts- Ronald Reagan (one of the wisest C-in-C's we've ever had; Republican, btw🙂)
Originally posted by Star428
They want a socialist so-called "utopia" and they will break any law to achieve it..
Except they aren't breaking laws, they're trying to pass laws.
They don't care about the Constitution,
Once again, you're trying to define 'being an undocumented immigrant' as a crime, which is itself unconstitutional. The constitution, actually, says very little about immigration. It *does* have a claus about general welfare.
Unconstitutional does not mean 'disagrees with Star,' nor does constitutional mean 'agrees with Star.'
God,
False, most are Christian, and taking care of your fellow man has a *lot* of material in the Bible.
Here's a Jesus quote for you, Matthew 25:41
"Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me. 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. "
Jesus flat-out says, for not feeding and clothing a stranger, you get cast into everlasting fire. And that how you treat the least of people, is how you treat Jesus.
Poor immigrants, refugees, and the like, strike me as the 'least.' Jesus did not say, 'feed, cloth, and provide drink to the least, except for this lot,' after all.
individual rights,
False, they view many of their policies as a way to help individual rights. *You* may disagree, but that doesn't change their view.
In the case of gay marriage and such, that's clearing adding additional rights.
or any of the principles our Republic was founded on.
General welfare is in the constitution, 'all are created equal,' voting to decide what to do which is how they want to implement stuff, etc..
They're about as anti-American as anyone can get.
You're defining anti-American as anti-your side.
Oh, they also want bigger government. Bigger government means less freedom for individuals.
False, not inherent at all. Protecting people's freedoms involves having people to guard them. Stuff like more access to education increases freedom. Requiring higher wages lowers corporate freedom but raising individual freedom, preventing wage-slave conditions, etc..
Note that, say, the higher rax rates and such? Ones that the US has used before, not new. If America has used them before for decades at a time, including under Republicans, why didn't they cause horrible effects back then?
Also note the government expanded more under Bush than Obama.
As government expands, liberty contracts- Ronald Reagan (one of the wisest C-in-C's we've ever had; Republican, btw🙂)
Says Reagan. Many Americans disagree, and I think the ones who disagree are right.
Don't confuse your opinion or the opinion of those who agree with you as an absolute, or what defines America.
The Constitution has a section that the government can act in the general welfare of the American people, and the founding father who set it down was quite clear that this meant that the government should help people out, as long as it's in general. Some founding fathers definitely disagree with you, in parts that got in to the constitution, so saying it's Anti-American/anti-American Principles/Anti-Constitution is all false- it's just American principles that have been there since day 1 that you, personally, do not emphasize as much.
Damn right I"ll continue to bring up God whether u or anyone else likes it or not. This country was founded on Christianity and a growing number of people in the country turning away from Him is why we are morally bankrupt as a nation. Things like children being forced by teachers to say "God is not real" (which I posted about in religion forum) makes me sick to my stomach. Then there was the time where students were forced to recite "There is no God but Allah". Schools should not be teaching shit like that to our children.
Democrats put more value on the lives of evil murderers than they do innocent unborn children. Nuff' said.
Australia is NOT a good measuring stick, tbh.
They don't just take in the best of the best, they take in almost ANYONE with a trade. It's gotten to the point where people going over there get treated like shit by the locals because they're, to use a term "taking all the jobs" and so on.
Originally posted by Star428
This country was founded on Christianity
Was it though? I thought your original constitution was very clear about the separation of church and state.
It is but by "founded on Christianity" I mean that the overwhelming majority (if not all) of the people were Christians so the law of the land (the Constitution) was made for Christians by Christians. Our currency has "In God We Trust" on it and our nation's Pledge of Allegiance contains the words "One nation. Under God". God has always been an important part of Traditional American values. Up until recently, of course. Unfortunately.
Originally posted by Star428
It is but by "founded on Christianity" I mean that the overwhelming majority (if not all) of the people were Christians so the law of the land (the Constitution) was made for Christians by Christians. Our currency has "In God We Trust" on it and our nation's Pledge of Allegiance contains the words "One nation. Under God". God has always been an important part of Traditional American values. Up until recently, of course. Unfortunately.
TBH I think that's pushing it a bit.
"in god we trust" and "under god" was only added in the last century, wasn't it?
TBH, traditional American values don't sound all that great. Just imo.