Originally posted by Star428Those weren't added until much later to our currency and pledge. In there are a significant number of people that would like to see us go back to how things were originally without the God label.
It is but by "founded on Christianity" I mean that the overwhelming majority (if not all) of the people were Christians so the law of the land (the Constitution) was made for Christians by Christians. Our currency has "In God We Trust" on it and our nation's Pledge of Allegiance contains the words "One nation. Under God". God has always been an important part of Traditional American values. Up until recently, of course. Unfortunately.
I'm one of them.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
When has any country or nation that just lets everyone in ever worked?You do realize America is a tipping point.
Social Security will be a bust soon, as will Medicare.
We have almost 20 trillion in debt with no end in sight.
We can't make good trade deals. We can't win on trade.
Our deficits are skyrocketing.
We spent $43 million on a gas station in another country thats sure to be blown up in the next year.
We can't even feed the kids we have here.
Adding more to this system is good to you.
Explain that one.
How do you even justify that thinking?
NewJack you didn't respond to my response to you
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialSome of those are legit problems some of them are you trying to use scare tactics.
NewJack you didn't respond to my response to you
We have more than enough resources to handle the number of immigrants we get in a year both legally and illegally.
Some of it is using our resources better... like food.
Some of it is you not realizing these people will be paying taxes on their income and transactions so it is not like they will be only a net loss on the economy. Which is something you have to seriously consider before you say some of the stuff like they will be a drain on the economy.
There answered.
Although it's true that the forefathers intent was to seperate church and state that still doesn't change the fact that they made references to God several times in both Constitution and Declaration of Independence. They even implied that Jesus was God when they signed document "In the year of our Lord":
http://www.libertyunderfire.org/2011/07/five-references-to-god-in-the-declaration-of-independence/
http://www.christianpost.com/news/god-and-the-constitution-129658/
It's quite clear to me that our Republic was founded on Christianity.
Originally posted by Star428
Although it's true that the forefathers intent was to seperate church and state that still doesn't change the fact that they made references to God several times in both Constitution and Declaration of Independence. They even stated that Jesus was God when they signed document "In the year of our Lord":http://www.libertyunderfire.org/2011/07/five-references-to-god-in-the-declaration-of-independence/
http://www.christianpost.com/news/god-and-the-constitution-129658/
It's quite clear to me that our Republic was founded on Christianity.
So you're saying they wanted to separate church and state but yet... Didn't want to, also?
Originally posted by Newjak
Some of those are legit problems some of them are you trying to use scare tactics.We have more than enough resources to handle the number of immigrants we get in a year both legally and illegally.
Some of it is using our resources better... like food.
Some of it is you not realizing these people will be paying taxes on their income and transactions so it is not like they will be only a net loss on the economy. Which is something you have to seriously consider before you say some of the stuff like they will be a drain on the economy.
There answered.
The fact you think any of what I said was fear tactics is telling. Point out exactly which part.
Social Security? Medicare?
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialWe spent $43 million on a gas station in another country thats sure to be blown up in the next year.
The fact you think any of what I said was fear tactics is telling. Point out exactly which part.Social Security? Medicare?
You do realize America is a tipping point.
We have almost 20 trillion in debt with no end in sight.
We can't make good trade deals. We can't win on trade.
Our deficits are skyrocketing.
There ya go.
The 43 million dollar natural gas station is silly but it isn't going to break us. Including it on this topic is at this point a political ploy
The others are mostly unfounded fears. America is not at the tipping point. We still have an incredibly strong economy. We still consume many goods so people are more than willing to sell us stuff and trade with us.
Our deficits are not skyrocketing they have actually declined some.
The debt with no end in site is also fear mongering. Almost no country in the world currently operates without debt. Only the really really small ones do. Too much debt is a bad thing and I want to see the deficit continue to decline. Debt isn't the end of all in a modern economy though.
Social Security is a legitimate concern but you are once equating any new immigrants into the us as a guaranteed net loss to the economy. Which historically has not been the case.
It's "silly."
Funny your criticism of an astronomical waste of money renders the term "silly."
You think that is the only "Silly" mistake Obama has made on spending money, how about the $500,000,000 on 4-5 syrian rebels? Another "silly?"
I don't need to read any thing else you said cause your just a bias person who cannot give criticism where it is due.
The deficits are skyrocketing, and you stupid, or just ignorant. How did they just raise the debt ceiling to "no set limit." if they were declining.
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialIt's like trying to have a discussion with a wall.
It's "silly."Funny your criticism of an astronomical waste of money renders the term "silly."
You think that is the only "Silly" mistake Obama has made on spending money, how about the $500,000,000 on 4-5 syrian rebels? Another "silly?"
I don't need to read any thing else you said cause your just a bias person who cannot give criticism where it is due.
The deficits are skyrocketing, and you stupid, or just ignorant. How did they just raise the debt ceiling to "no set limit." if they were declining.