Lucifer Vs Thanos (Classic IG)

Originally posted by Mr Master
I shattered a nerve.

"Shattered a nerve." My goodness. facepalm

Originally posted by Mr Master
You showed me whatever, I showed you many scans too.
You compartmentalizing that into "TOAA > God!!!" is your limited perception of my posts I guess.

But yes, "TOAA>God!!!" was the meat & potatoes behind most of your recent posts. I can repost them if you'd like..?

Originally posted by Mr Master
This had nothing to do with Lucifer vs Thanos initially, (still don't care)
I just decided to have fun with that since u just ignored
a bunch of stuff I highlighted concerning Magus/Adam multiversal feat.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos/CCU was limited to "universal" literally stated on panel.
Infinity Being is the power of the Infinity Gauntlet.
Thanos/IG was God.
Magus/IG was nigh-God but the story had us thinking otherwise until the end.
Goddess/CCUs God? ... Don't recall. Do recall Starlin literally telling us via Surfer IG > Goddess' CCUs.

Anything else?

Originally posted by Mr Master
THOTI (a decade later) was the new level of ultimate God.

If THOTI = God > IG, then the latter was obviously never "God" to begin with. Not literally, at least. How can you be so blind to something so glaringly obvious?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Again, try and keep up. ... or just continue your attempts at humor to deflect.

Now this, however:

Originally posted by Mr Master
And finally, gibberish.

Definitely have a case of shattered nerve syndrome.

SNS isn't a condition you should make fun of, homo. 👇

Originally posted by Galan007

This made me lol.

Originally posted by Galan007

"Shattered a nerve." My goodness.

You did post several scans. None of which imply that the IG is on par with Lucifer.

btw. I disagree.

Originally posted by Galan007

But yes, "TOAA>God!!!" was the meat & potatoes behind most of your recent posts. I can repost them if you'd like..?

We were debating Magus/Adam incomplete IG and the Multiversal feat.

Originally posted by Galan007

Get off that high-horse for a second and be honest... If you really 'didn't care' about the outcome, you wouldn't be defending the IG so vehemently, with claims like: "TOAA>God!!!" Lol.

I was highlighting something of "interest." I even stated so several times. The Magus joint.
Somehow that swirled negatively into a debate concerning God crap. At this point, I was having fun.

The trolls are the ones that are a bit aggravating cause they're pointless.
You're not a troll to me at all, but you sometimes fall into a disrespectful mode. Like today.

Originally posted by Galan007

I'm sure you don't realize how utterly ridiculous this sounds..?

If THOTI = God > IG, then the latter was obviously never "God" to begin with. Not literally, at least. How can you be so blind to something so glaringly obvious?

Keep up. ... Also, you just can't help yourself to use derogatory language to get your point across.

Originally posted by Galan007

I haven't deflected anything, actually. I have addressed all of your 'points' that have pertained to the battle at hand. Your anger has blinded you.

Crying at derogatory language while making insults at the same time.

You are a joke👆

He doesn't need your cyber hand job. Damn hop off his nuts. He's a big boy. A fireman.

Originally posted by Mr Master

The trolls are the ones that are a bit aggravating cause they're pointless

Yes, you are quite aggravating.

👆

Originally posted by Mr Master
We were debating Magus/Adam incomplete IG and the Multiversal feat.

Originally posted by Mr Master
... The OP is specifically using "[b]classic" Infinity Gauntlet.[/B]

Easy, no?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Keep up. ... Also, you just can't help yourself to use derogatory language to get your point across.

Stop being so emotional. 👆

Lucifer sucks. IG Thanos has this.

Originally posted by Galan007

...A point I dropped long ago because, as I said then, it is entirely irrelevant. Universal and multiversal are meaningless words next to a character who warped the totality of [the one and only] Supreme Being's power to his whim.

So essentially, Lucy warped the equivalent to the IG power. But the question is, can Lucy defeat the Presence?

If the Presence uses his "supreme being power" against Lucy, what would happen iyo?

Originally posted by Galan007

Yes, I know. It doesn't change anything I just said. As Marvel: The End[demonstrated: the IG never made its user "God". Not literally. THOTI, however, did(as noted by Thanos/Starlin.) So again: THOTI = God > 'classic' IG =/= God.

Easy, no?

Nah, you gotta be joking. Ahh .. you almost had me there. 😛

Originally posted by Galan007

Um, what? Absolutely nothing I said in that post was derogatory. At all.

Stop being so emotional.

Stop being so condescending. 👆

Originally posted by Mr Master
But it was relevant at the time because an incomplete IG performed a Multiversal feat.
That's what I was proving. I get what Lucy did.
But the complete IG was "God" until retconned by Jim via the HOTI over a decade later.

Again: THOTI = God > 'classic' IG =/= God. This is canon fact. Am I supposed to pretend like Marvel: The End doesn't exist, just to try and help your argument?

Originally posted by Mr Master
So essentially, Lucy warped the equivalent to the IG power.

Originally posted by Mr Master
But the question is, can Lucy defeat the Presence?

If the Presence uses his "supreme being power" against Lucy, what would happen iyo?

The paradoxes ensue...

Originally posted by Mr Master
Are you fooling with me? So .. this isn't "[b]classic" IG, ... this is retconned IG. [/B]

=What I have been referencing the entire time. As you say: "keep up". 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
You're funny, seriously.

Originally posted by Galan007

Impossible to know for sure. You're essentially asking if the Supreme Being can defeat his own infinite will(which is what Lucifer embodies.) It's just like asking: "can God create a boulder so heavy that he cannot lift it?"

The paradoxes ensue...

This can't be what's intended and it isn't. We know, going by on panel proof, that neither Lucifer or Michael are uncreated. Only DC's 'supreme being' is. This 'supreme being' created Michael, Lucifer, and everything else.

They CANNOT be equal to their maker. Common sense says Creator > created.

IF, and this is a big if, they are indeed meant to be equal to their maker, then by definition their maker is NOT omnipotent.

But Thanos is God.

With CCU.

With IG.

With HOTI.

Sise-neg is also God.

So is infinity being.

So is LT.

So is random character number 501.

Beyonder is above God.

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
But Thanos is God. with the HotU, yes

With CCU. retconned

With IG. retconned

With HOTI. yes

Sise-neg is also God. forgotten and possibly retconned by the HotU

So is infinity being. retconned

So is LT. never was

So is random character number 501. no comment

Beyonder is above God. retconned

😂

Originally posted by zopzop
This makes ZERO sense. So if Lucifer's 'infinite will' is co-equal to DC's "supreme being", this means Michael's 'infinite power' is co-equal to DC's 'supreme being". This means DC has 3 separate co-equal omnipotents which is logical cluster****.

This can't be what's intended and it isn't. We know, going by on panel proof, that neither Lucifer or Michael are uncreated. Only DC's 'supreme being' is. This 'supreme being' created Michael, Lucifer, and everything else.

They CANNOT be equal to their maker. Common sense says Creator > created.

IF, and this is a big if, they are indeed meant to be equal to their maker, then by definition their maker is NOT omnipotent.

Here's an example from this very thread:

Originally posted by Mr Master
I command TOAA's power (truly God's energies) and I'm more powerful than you:

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That's the LT packing TOAA's power and still ... stoned

So by your same logic, Marvel's TOAA would NOT be omnipotent... Or does that 'logic' only apply to DC? 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
This is an interesting opinion, zop, because Mr M has said time and time again that LT was equal to TOAA when he encountered the IG.

Here's an example from this very thread:

So by your same logic, Marvel's TOAA would NOT be omnipotent... Or does that 'logic' only apply to DC? 🙂

Also, this wouldn't be the first time TOAA didn't come to the LT's aid, see the HotU incident. Or the Protege fiasco.

TOAA > any of his creations. Period.

Originally posted by zopzop
Vertigoverse's stupidity still stands though.

So TOAA isn't omnipotent after all.

Originally posted by zopzop
The LT knew that Warlock would give up the IG without a fight. Next issue, Warlock all but admitted the LT > Classic IG.

Also, this wouldn't be the first time TOAA didn't come to the LT's aid, see the HotU incident. Or the Protege fiasco.

TOAA > any of his creations. Period.

That's all you had to say. 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
So LT channeling TOAA power was still not powerful enough to beat IG.

So TOAA isn't omnipotent after all.

The LT is NOT TOAA. TOAA has no equals and has never been beaten. It doesn't even need to involve itself with the affairs of it's creation that's how far above them it is.

Originally posted by zopzop
Warlock admitted next issue LT > Classic IG. You can look it up yourself.

The LT is NOT TOAA. TOAA has no equals and has never been beaten. It doesn't even need to involve itself with the affairs of it's creation that's how far above them it is.