Superman vs Herald Gauntlet

Started by Dampyre9 pages
Originally posted by panthergod
How does Stardust put Superman down?

How does Superman put Stardust down in his energy form?

Originally posted by h1a8
I believe Superman beats Thanos. But you can't use that ABC logic since Thanos was beaten up by Namor, Thing, squirrel girl, groot, etc. Even starfox was giving it to him.

Finally, What did Morg actually do to Thanos? Could any Herald replicate that same exact action?

Wait... Namor and Thing have both beaten up Thanos? Are you ****ing kidding me? When did that shit happen?

Originally posted by Dampyre
How does Superman put Stardust down in his energy form?

By blasting him with Heat Vision that can seal holes in the fabric of reality while less powerful than he is here--far beyond Storm's solar storm lightning--, disrupting his energy form with counter vibrations that can effect extradimensional God consciousness, and containing him in an electromagnetic Forcefield generated by super-Friction that can contain temporal breaches-- and yes, he's used this power offensively.

Any more questions?

Stops at stardust,stops at destroyer if it isn't the jobbing version

He gets by Terrax and dies horribly to Stardust and it gets worse from there.

All of them can pull some wins, it's just up to you to decide who gets the majority.

Originally posted by Dampyre
How does Superman put Stardust down in his energy form?

Punching it really hard. Just like Bill did in Godhunter.

Originally posted by carver9
All of them can pull some wins, it's just up to you to decide who gets the majority.

No, they can't. Only surfer can pull some wins.

Originally posted by Star428
Wait... Namor and Thing have both beaten up Thanos? Are you ****ing kidding me? When did that shit happen?

Namor and Thing never did any such thing. It seems like in order for a character to be a challenge for Superman, they have to no sell everything thrown at them while Superman doesn't do the same. Namor broke his hand on Thanos' face, and the Thing was grabbed and swung around by Thanos at super speeds. Squirrel Girl was off panel, so no one really knows the full extent as to how she won that battle. She still has yet to do anything impressive on panel.

Originally posted by Star428
Wait... Namor and Thing have both beaten up Thanos? Are you ****ing kidding me? When did that shit happen?

Nothing h1 said is even remotely true. Namor shattered all the bones in his fist punching Thanos and it only gave Thanos a bloody lip. Namor then proceeded to get stomped in a few panels by Thanos, who intentionally let him live so that Namor could watch the Cabal slaughter worlds.

Thing has knocked himself out just punching classic Thanos. Don't know where h1 got the idea that Thing beat Thanos.

Originally posted by Stoic
Kind of strange that the Surfer survived the destruction of an entire planet while in a normal state, but dies while over charged from impacting a moon. Let's get out the low showings to prove a point shall we? Or, could it have been that the charged up Surfer was unstable due to being filled with too much energy?

Surfer didn't die in that scene, he was just unconscious.

And you're right about all that energy making Surfer unstable. Absorbing that much energy caused Surfer to go mentally insane to the point where he couldn't control it properly, and couldn't even navigate his way to his target moon. He needed Drax and Hulk to physically bat him toward the right direction.

Everyone knows Surfer is a casual planet buster and destroys moons as a side-effect of his battles.

Originally posted by One-Punch
Nothing h1 said is even remotely true. Namor shattered all the bones in his fist punching Thanos and it only gave Thanos a bloody lip. Namor then proceeded to get stomped in a few panels by Thanos, who intentionally let him live so that Namor could watch the Cabal slaughter worlds.

Thing has knocked himself out just punching classic Thanos. Don't know where h1 got the idea that Thing beat Thanos.

Surfer didn't die in that scene, he was just unconscious.

And you're right about all that energy making Surfer unstable. Absorbing that much energy caused Surfer to go [b]mentally insane to the point where he couldn't control it properly, and couldn't even navigate his way to his target moon. He needed Drax and Hulk to physically bat him toward the right direction.

Everyone knows Surfer is a casual planet buster and destroys moons as a side-effect of his battles. [/B]

Blatantly false. He was half way dead and in limbo.

Obviously his energy blasts are more powerful than his actual physical strikes. Being insane doesn't mean he was any less durable. He was far more powerful and still got killed.

This was written by the same writer who had Surfer and Morg destroy the planet BTW.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, they can't. Only surfer can pull some wins.

Yes, they can. Stop throwing your opinion on me.

It's not opinion. It's a fact.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Blatantly false. He was half way dead and in limbo.

Obviously his energy blasts are more powerful than his actual physical strikes. Being insane doesn't mean he was any less durable. He was far more powerful and still got killed.

This was written by the same writer who had Surfer and Morg destroy the planet BTW.


That was just a dream.

The last page in that book has Thanos stating Surfer lives and shows Surfer falling toward Goddesses' Counter-Earth. The next book shows Surfer waking on Counter-Earth weakened and gets attacked by enthralled Storm and Wonder Man. I mean if Surfer actually died in SS#84 like you're claiming there wouldn't be an SS#85 to #146 nor 4 more Silver Surfer volumes later on. His story would've just ended in SS#84. 😂

That moon exploding scene was actually first written by Starlin in main event book Infinity Crusade #4 and later on shown again and expanded on from Surfer's perspective in SS#84 written by Ron Marz. Marz was just making it consistent with the main IC book.

No, it wasn't. Her mother specifically tells him that he is in between life and death.

After his talk with his mother, he chooses to live and returns from the limbo as it was his choice.

Don't play dumb now.

Marz wrote the scene and expanded on it. There is nothing to contradict it in Marz and Starlin issues. Starlin only wrote Surfer to be koed, it was Marz who wrote Surfer nearly dying.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it wasn't. Her mother specifically tells him that he is in between life and death.

After his talk with his mother, he chooses to live and returns from the limbo as it was his choice.

Don't play dumb now.

Marz wrote the scene and expanded on it. There is nothing to contradict it in Marz and Starlin issues. Starlin only wrote Surfer to be koed, it was Marz who wrote Surfer nearly dying.


That fact that his parents showed up in "limbo" proves it was just a dream because the actual souls of Surfer's parents were being held by Mephisto in Hades at the time, as seen in SS#100.

Again, Thanos states Surfer lives on the last page, and Surfer wakes up very much alive in the next issue. Not sure how you can get away with claiming Surfer passed away. It's like the time you claimed DD one-shot Hercules or Punisher beat Ulik. It's just not true lol.

Starlin wrote the scene first in Infinity Crusade #4. Marz expanded on it further in Surfer's book which tied into the IC event. Unless you're trying to claim Ron Marz wrote Infinity Crusade?

No, it wasn't a dream. Surfer was shown to be half way dead and then chose to live but came out completely drained of power. The fact that the "dream" version of his parents knew that they were dead totally negates that they were dream versions.

Yeah, he does. Because he chose to live. He was dead and his soul actually got crossed into purgatory.

Marz expanded on the impact and showed how Surfer nearly died by the impact. How does Starlin writing it in Crusade negates what Marz chose to expand upon it? He wasn't forced to write Surfer nearly dying.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it wasn't a dream. Surfer was shown to be half way dead and then chose to live but came out completely drained of power. The fact that the "dream" version of his parents knew that they were dead totally negates that they were dream versions.

Yeah, he does. Because he chose to live. He was dead and his soul actually got crossed into purgatory.

Marz expanded on the impact and showed how Surfer nearly died by the impact. How does Starlin writing it in Crusade negates what Marz chose to expand upon it? He wasn't forced to write Surfer nearly dying.


How can the souls of Surfer's parents be in Limbo and Hades at the same time? It was made clear in SS#100 the soul's of Surfer's parents were sent to hell when they committed suicide. Mephisto specifically held on to the souls of Surfer's parents to later torment Surfer with.

Also since when was the realm of Limbo a subway train station? More reason to think it was a dream. 😂

Dying and almost dying are two very different things. You can't claim someone died if they actually survived. That just makes no sense. 😕

Surfer blew a planet against ravenous casually,moon busting is beneath him....he stops at stardust,can't do anything to him

Scenario 1 stops at Terrax or Stardust
Scenario two stops at Surfer.