Originally posted by ares834
In LotS, Sidious and Vader battle a Lylek Queen. A creature quick enough to tag even Sidious yet Vader is able to keep up with it. And since when does a canon source need support? We use sources to support our arguments not the other way around.
Sidious was holding back though, as Vader himself admitted.
Nope. I have quotes, but you're kind of terrible, so I don't see the point in giving them too you. You'll just find a way to dodge around it like you always do. I'd post them for everyone else to see, but everyone else has already seen them. Really no point in posting them at all, especially for you to just ignore anyway.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceSo why bring something up if you wont post it ? Are you just trying to increase your post count ? I don't ever ignore evidence.
Nope. I have quotes, but you're kind of terrible, so I don't see the point in giving them too you. You'll just find a way to dodge around it like you always do. I'd post them for everyone else to see, but everyone else has already seen them. Really no point in posting them at all, especially for you to just ignore anyway.
Originally posted by Raptor22My arguments are based off established facts not some books opinions on certain characters skill levels. Writers have opinions as well that doesn't make them factual unless it pertains to something they handled previously.
it is, and people ignoring ur terrible arguments doesnt change that
Originally posted by quanchi112it's not some writers opinion. This didn't come as an e-mail response to a readers question, or a post on some random website. Its a fact, in a cannon source published by disney. Once disney publishes it in a cannon source its no longer just a writers opinion, it becomes a cannon fact. Your personal opinion about it and ur made up rules simply dont matter.
My arguments are based off established facts not some books opinions on certain characters skill levels. Writers have opinions as well that doesn't make them factual unless it pertains to something they handled previously.
Originally posted by Raptor22Disney has also stated Windu defeated Sidious and that's a fact. This is just an opinion by the people that submitted this. It's like some one arguing power levels for a marvel comics character based on a trading card saying see its canon. It's ridiculous.
it's not some writers opinion. This didn't come as an e-mail response to a readers question, or a post on some random website. Its a fact, in a cannon source published by disney. Once disney publishes it in a cannon source its no longer just a writers opinion, it becomes a cannon fact. Your personal opinion about it and ur made up rules simply dont matter.
Originally posted by quanchi112sry but facts published in cannon sourcebooks hold much more value than ur opinion of nah uh it doesnt count.
Disney has also stated Windu defeated Sidious and that's a fact. This is just an opinion by the people that submitted this. It's like some one arguing power levels for a marvel comics character based on a trading card saying see its canon. It's ridiculous.
Using your logic one could argue that the events of the movies aren't facts, since they are just the opinions of a writer/director about what they think would happen.
this is a fictional universe, the facts r whatever the owner of the liscense says they r.
disney cannon> quan doesn't like it so it doesn't count
Originally posted by Raptor22Just as the official handbooks of marvel which iirc classify Odin's strength as class 75 despite his showings as vastly superior to guys like Thor and the Hulk who are class 100's in strength.
sry but facts published in cannon sourcebooks hold much more value than ur opinion of nah uh it doesnt count.Using your logic one could argue that the events of the movies aren't facts, since they are just the opinions of a writer/director about what they think would happen.
this is a fictional universe, the facts r whatever the owner of the liscense says they r.
disney cannon> quan doesn't like it so it doesn't count
The movies are indeed facts as they have occurred and the events thereby continued within are history. What isn't history is some vague skill wise top ten.
Just as in marvels canonized sourcebooks do not outweigh the actual comics aka the evidence. Disney canon are the films, live action series, comics, but the opinions of those who tell the stories or release the books are just those peoples opinions unless they cover a story they told.