Originally posted by TrocityHe moves slowly in rebels and this video game because he's always been portrayed as quick with the Lightsaber but generally a slower moving guy.
No, what he is trying to say is Vader's speed as it appears in comics and novels is hyperbole because he moves slowly in a movie from 1980.
Originally posted by Raptor22
I thought I remembered something like that but wasn't certain. I think there was a top ten ranking list for jedi from starwars.com that he was using to argue another point as well around the same time but it could have been someone else.
That was him too. It was Best 10 Jedi (which is of course subjective). But to be fair in that one he didn't use the ranking, he was using the description.
Originally posted by Raptor22I cite the facts only. I'll reference an opinion here or there but don't act like its the end all be all. Again, realize that generalized rankings aren't absolute facts. The facts are the history of the films, series, comics, lore.
gee I wonder who we should listen to on what r cannon facts. Disney who owns it and says the cannon facts r from the movies, shows, novels, comics, and sourcebooks, or quan who just makes up random crap that he thinks will help his current argument.Ah man its such a hard choice, I dont know which to believe.
105 (Edited):
- DE Palpatine
- Valkorion
100:
- (Base)
- NJO Skywalker
95:
- ROTS Yoda
90 (Edited):
- TPM Sidious
- DE Skywalker
85:
- SOR Revan
- Darth Krayt
- Darth Plagueis
- Darth Caedus
80:
- Darth Vader
- Exar Kun
- Starkiller
- Galen Marek
- Arcann
- Dread Masters
75:
- Marka Ragnos
- Tulak Hord
- Freedon Nadd
- Naga Sadow
- Karness Muur
- Darth Revan
70:
- Darth Malgus
- Darth Malak
- Darth Bane
- Ulic-Qel Droma
- Darth Wyyrlok
- Darth Tyranus
Just a rough draft. Mainly Sith.
Individuals within a tier not in order.
TBH for my lists I'm including both Force power / lightsaber ability / everything combat applicable. Not just raw power.
That being said, Kenobi's deflecting TK attacks from an extremely angered and unrestrained Skywalker in the ROTS novel.
Plus, following his death, he's constantly referenced back to Luke and compared alongside Yoda as the end-all, be-all powerful Jedi.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
TBH for my lists I'm including both Force power / lightsaber ability / everything combat applicable. Not just raw power.That being said, Kenobi's deflecting TK attacks from an extremely angered and unrestrained Skywalker in the ROTS novel.
Plus, following his death, he's constantly referenced back to Luke and compared alongside Yoda as the end-all, be-all powerful Jedi.
Ah gotcha.
A hindered Anakin you mean? 😛
Not impressive considering the only two Jedi Luke met were Obi Wan and Yoda.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I don't consider Skywalker that hindered during the battle, TBH.True, but he met guys like Kyp Durron (extremely powerful) and said he hadn't felt power like that since Kenobi (or something like that).
Mmmm. Fair enough.
Eh still an accolade something I don't put much stock in.
Originally posted by Syndicate
1)Yoda ( 90 )
2)Vitiate ( ??? )
3)RotS Anakin ( 70 )
4)Dooku ( 75 )
5)DD Vos ( 70 )
6)Exar Kun ( ??? )
7)Obi wan Kenobi ( 65 )
This is the best one I've seen so far. I would say Vitiate is around the agora level at around 90 as well,but with his new feats he most likely is higher. Vos I would put below Kun due to lower force powers. Kun above Dooku as well in force power as well.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
OP asked for specific people, oops. Here:1)Yoda - 95
2)Vitiate - 105
3)RotS Anakin - 75/80
4)Dooku - 70
5)DD Vos - 65/70
6)Exar Kun - 80
7)Obi wan Kenobi - 65/70
Most likely the list I would have put. Only issue is vitiate is 105. Also say that Anakin is 75 solid while Vader is 80.