Should Syrian refugees be allowed into the US

Started by Time-Immemorial15 pages

Not before long Germany will be cowtoing for them, even after giving them refuge, jobs and safety.

I wonder how it would work if Americans went to a Muslim country and demanded rights, jobs and whatever else.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Not before long Germany will be cowtoing for them, even after giving them refuge, jobs and safety.

I wonder how it would work if Americans went to a Muslim country and demanded rights, jobs and whatever else.

We'd be put to death.

That's the thing. They want to have the same rights they used to have back from their respective Arab country when they arrive to other countries. But foreigners can't have the same rights they used to when said foreigners come over to an Arab country. Kind of hypocritical, to say the least. But that's how democracy works.

You can't have half of the cake, yet demand to have the rest of it. Muslims need to learn how to assimilate in the society they live in if they want non-Muslims to change their views toward their religion.

Well they want the whole world to be Muslim. So they don't really care if they are hypocrites. The liberals here defend Muslims purely online. Out on the street I bet they would not step foot in a Arab country.

Liberals have no spines. They'd rathrr cave than to stand up for something.

It's kinda ironic 'cause the liberals would prob be the first in line to defy Islamic integration in our society.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
It's kinda ironic 'cause the liberals would prob be the first in line to defy Islamic integration in our society.

Ultra conservatives would. They don't want them here anyway.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
It's kinda ironic 'cause the liberals would prob be the first in line to defy Islamic integration in our society.

What would happen if the US and Europe went into a civil war and we had to leave. Would they even give us refuge?

No, they won't. Our concepts of freedom and democracy will reign over their intolerance. That would mean the total collapse of Islam as we know it. Or at least they'd make major revisions and try to assimilate the concepts, like what Catholicism did in the middle ages. Or most of them will just kill us off in order to preserve their religious ideals.

At any rate, a few hundred thousand refugees over the next 3 or 4 years is not going to make much of a difference in the demographic make up of the United States.

And while I always find it fascinating when right winger who allegedly believe in America's excellency use the "well certain Muslim countries are intolerant so why shouldn't we be", in general I think there is still are large parts of America that believe in the spirit of freedom, the sense of good in America that it prides itself on, that do not want to stand by as innocent people suffer.

No we live in the real world. Those bullshit excuses ended about 30 years ago. Obama is willing to let them in without serious background checks.

You always say the same thing the old "give us your tired, your poor and hungry."

America didn't even write those words, the French did.

Nah, there's always been the two groups in American politics, war-mongering profiteers and high-minded moralists.

Obama does want background checks, he just doesn't want background checks that are designed to keep people out without real advantages in security. Basically he doesn't want congress to play a political game, trying to stop taking refugees by making the hurdles so high that no one can come in.

You do realize Kerry and Hilary voted for the war.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial

You always say the same thing the old "give us your tired, your poor and hungry."

America didn't even write those words, the French did.

I never used that quote, but you are wrong. These are words written by an American poet and added to the Statue of Liberty by Americans.

So wait, we supposed to live by those, but change everything else for everyone else? You really think America can hold out forever against radical Islam?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You do realize Kerry and Hilary voted for the war.

Yes, and they were wrong in doing so, Clinton has said so since then. Kerry has also voiced his unhappiness with the events. What has that to do with my argument though?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, and they were wrong in doing so, Clinton has said so since then. Kerry has also voiced his unhappiness with the events. What has that to do with my argument though?

Republicans were not the only war mongers, that's my point. And you conveintly left that out.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So wait, we supposed to live by those, but change everything else for everyone else? You really think America can hold out forever against radical Islam?

Again, I never used them. I think the US should do its part in the international community, a much smaller part than what Europe is doing, for example, a smaller part than what neighbouring Muslim countries do.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Republicans were not the only war mongers, that's my point. And you conveintly left that out.

Yes, there are war-mongerers among Democrats as well. And not all Republicans are war-mongerers. Voting to go to war doesn't necessarily mean you are a war-mongerer either, there's justified wars, and there's also making decisions on limited information that turn out to be wrong ultimately.

Europe is more in tune dealing with those type of people. And you appear to like doing it. So keep on.👆 We like our skyscrapers and freedoms.