Should Syrian refugees be allowed into the US

no. my stance is that immigration, refugees, etc.. basically any movement of people... should be regulated for the benefit of the country in question. it's just plain stupid to take on another country's burden against your own interests.

sometimes if you have a culture that is similar enough that you can take their refugees... like the cuban refugees in miami, then you can see a success story.

but the syrians are very different from americans and europeans... the cultural difference is much greater and realistically we are dealing with people who have traditionally been considered enemies... there's a natural antagonism that is going to follow from forcing lower class europeans and americans to brush elbows with lower class syrians... sorry guys people still do have tribal instincts and nationalist tendencies. i think this sort of thing..

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makes it pretty clear why this is a stupid idea. multiculturalism is a pretty fragile ecosystem. if you think you can just jam any random cultures together and make a workable society you are just delusional.

so for the same reason it was stupid to import hundreds of thousands of european jews to the middle east in the 20th century... it is stupid to import the massive collateral damage of the syrian civil war in the 21st century.

Originally posted by red g jacks
no. my stance is that immigration, refugees, etc.. basically any movement of people... should be regulated for the benefit of the country in question. it's just plain stupid to take on another country's burden against your own interests.

sometimes if you have a culture that is similar enough that you can take their refugees... like the cuban refugees in miami, then you can see a success story.

but the syrians are very different from americans and europeans... the cultural difference is much greater and realistically we are dealing with people who have traditionally been considered enemies... there's a natural antagonism that is going to follow from forcing lower class europeans and americans to brush elbows with lower class syrians... sorry guys people still do have tribal instincts and nationalist tendencies. i think this sort of thing..

YouTube video

makes it pretty clear why this is a stupid idea. multiculturalism is a pretty fragile ecosystem. if you think you can just jam any random cultures together and make a workable society you are just delusional.

so for the same reason it was stupid to import hundreds of thousands of european jews to the middle east in the 20th century... it is stupid to import the massive collateral damage of the syrian civil war in the 21st century.

So what do you think should happen to them?

dunno... the world is a harsh place... i think perhaps they should go back to syria.

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Originally posted by red g jacks
dunno... the world is a harsh place... i think perhaps they should go back to syria.

Sociopathic, but I suppose not an uncommon view.

Of course there's also negative aspects to a nation that doesn't do its part for the international community, but I suppose they are more long term.

Originally posted by red g jacks
no. my stance is that immigration, refugees, etc.. basically any movement of people... should be regulated for the benefit of the country in question. it's just plain stupid to take on another country's burden against your own interests.

Let's take everyone out of the Middle East and integrate them into our countries.

Originally posted by Robtard
Can't see turning down 65,000 desperately needy people because of the off chance a few of them might be terrorist. Just have to be extreme with the vetting process.

We allowed 120K+ Cuban immigrants/asylum seekers into the US in 1980, knowing there would likely be a small number of lunatics and hardened criminals mixed in. That seemed to work out.

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Sociopathic, but I suppose not an uncommon view.

Of course there's also negative aspects to a nation that doesn't do its part for the international community, but I suppose they are more long term.

i mean if anybody should take the refugees it should be countries where they could more easily assimilate like saudi arabia or egypt... ethnically arab and religiously sunni countries... these would have the best hopes of actually providing an environment that these people could assimilate to on a mass scale.

i mean look at turkey... they are having problems there because the massive influx of syrians is seen as a "arabization" of the country... stirring up old nationalist sentiments.. and this is a country that is culturally much much closer to the syrians than any western country.

so what makes white people/westerners think we are so special? so immune from human tribal behavior, that every other part of the world is susceptible to?

Originally posted by red g jacks
no. my stance is that immigration, refugees, etc.. basically any movement of people... should be regulated for the benefit of the country in question. it's just plain stupid to take on another country's burden against your own interests.

sometimes if you have a culture that is similar enough that you can take their refugees... like the cuban refugees in miami, then you can see a success story.

but the syrians are very different from americans and europeans... the cultural difference is much greater and realistically we are dealing with people who have traditionally been considered enemies... there's a natural antagonism that is going to follow from forcing lower class europeans and americans to brush elbows with lower class syrians... sorry guys people still do have tribal instincts and nationalist tendencies. i think this sort of thing..

YouTube video

makes it pretty clear why this is a stupid idea. multiculturalism is a pretty fragile ecosystem. if you think you can just jam any random cultures together and make a workable society you are just delusional.

so for the same reason it was stupid to import hundreds of thousands of european jews to the middle east in the 20th century... it is stupid to import the massive collateral damage of the syrian civil war in the 21st century.

Are you aware that domestic terrorism (read: terrorism committed by US citizens) is the most common form of terrorism that occurs in our country?

The entire "assimilation" argument is dumb when you look at the sheer numbers. The overwhelming majority of immigrants that come here "assimilate" just fine.

is it literally 99%? do you have a stat for that?

and yea i'm well aware that we have homegrown retards. i wish we could deport them instead of importing more problems.

Originally posted by red g jacks
[B]is it literally 99%? do you have a stat for that?

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2015/09/Screen-Shot-2015-09-30-at-12.45.19-PM.png&w=1484

and yea i'm well aware that we have homegrown retards. i wish we could deport them instead of importing more problems.

Mexico.

Let's send all the Syrians to Mexico and all the Mexicans to America, then build the wall and this will be New Jersulaem.

We bring all the Meixcans here because they belong here really.

Then we send all the Syrians to Mexico and they can hopefully do something better with it then it's currently being used for.

Originally posted by Bardock42

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Spot on.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
No, it's a hyperbolic number that I pulled out of my ass. Here's an actual figure, to support my general point:

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2015/09/Screen-Shot-2015-09-30-at-12.45.19-PM.png&w=1484

"Deport" means to send them back to their country of origin... how does one deport US citizens out of the US? Where would they go?

We could use Mexico like a staging process. All the good ones stay in Mexico till they prove they won't cause problems here. And bring them to the US.

Originally posted by Bardock42

Originally posted by red g jacks
it's fitting that the story in question is a religious myth

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And all the aeithests here like Bardock jump on it ferverously like the republicans jumped on Joe the plumber.