Originally posted by Bardock42
I actually happen to be German, so Obama is not my commander in chief. The main decisions that led to this were made by the Bush administration anyways.
As much as you talk about Obama's badassery, I didn't think it mattered where you live, he's your guy. After all borders should not determine citizenship or political beliefs.
Originally posted by red g jacksThat's right, immigrants don't cause nearly as much troubleas citizens.
[B]thats an interesting chart. it would seem to indicate that the 1st generation immigrants aren't the real problem, their kids (and the generations after that) are.
In fact, it would seem that the only immigrants in US history who **** shit up the moment they arrive are white ones, as I'm sure Antonio de Santa Anna and Opechancanough will attest to.
Anyway, now that we've found established that immigrants by and large do not pose a threat to national security, on what imperative are you arguing that we should bar them from the country?
send them to the moon for all i care.Fair enough, so long as you're the first one on the rocket.
Originally posted by Surtur
War has consequences. It's unfortunate, but true. If people want to say we should do it because it is our fault then anyone who is running for president and was even a tiny bit in favor of doing what we did to cause this should never hold the job of president.
That's a non-sequitur.
You say we caused it. You say over a million people are refugee's in your country, and 65,000 here. If we caused something that made that many people flee then it's just another thing to add to the list of clusterf*cks of the war.
So for me I don't want someone who was in favor of something that caused that much damage. But that is just me.
Originally posted by Surtur
You say we caused it. You say over a million people are refugee's in your country, and 65,000 here. If we caused something that made that many people flee then it's just another thing to add to the list of clusterf*cks of the war.So for me I don't want someone who was in favor of something that caused that much damage. But that is just me.
That makes sense as a personal decision. I mean there's not that many people left then though, Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders, I suppose.
Originally posted by Bardock42...nah. you can blame the us for ISIS, sure. you can't blame the US alone for the arab spring, which is actually what led to the syrian situation.
Oh yes, the main one is waging the Iraq war, destabilising the region leading to the rise of ISIS.
btw are we as liberals still supposed to support the broad that wanted to give more help to the syrian rebels... which in turn ended up being arming al nusra/isis?
seriously though look at this green text typing guy above me to see why the prospect of importing a ton of sunni arab musilms from syria into this country makes me nervous
you guys really think this is a good idea? you might start a holy war or something, lol. i mean yea we have "tons of space"... technically speaking that is. problem is most of the "space" is in redneck country. most of this country is white as **** and christian as ****. the few metropolitan areas like the ny philly cali chicago texas south florida etc that might be somewhat accomodating... there's not so much "space" in these places. they're generally crowded and expensive as ****. if syrian refugees can hack it there then sure.. it wouldn't be so bad.. but what are the chances that these people are going to have any economic prospects here? they're from a war torn impoverished part of the world. a good number of them are young unemployed males. honestly. we all know how demographics like that do in large metropolitan urban centers