Vader and Arkann run a gauntlet

Started by DarthAnt665 pages

They were capable of lifting the Gravestone without the protag's help if he was non-Force sensitive.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also LOL at the Jedi fooling the frigging Star Cabal with a false story.

No that's some bullshit beyond even you. The Jedi are fooling the ****ing Star Cabal, which they don't even know about. That's so ****ing lolarious my sides just flew past Saturn.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They were capable of lifting the Gravestone without the protag's help if he was non-Force sensitive.

Even I won't humor a non-Force Sensitive Outlander, but we're talking about best showings.

His best showing is getting consistently butt****ed by Soa, the Dread Masters, and Revan, but manages to somehow always live through the confrontations.

As if the Smuggler didn't solo mode those clowns.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Maul specifically said that he was lending her his power, not that they made a barrier together.

Besides defending against Vitiate, even if weakened, this acting like the HoT is the only FS in TOR capable of going through KotFE, and the others tanking vast amounts of power from the higher ups of the Dark Council? Helping lift the Gravestone. That being said, power is involved in all aspects of combat, not just lifting up large pieces of rubble and blowing through blast doors, which the Barsen'thor has done. Point is, no one here is lacking for showings, and many of them are superior to most of Team 1. Arcann still absolutely stomped and tore through their shields.

I can't make heads or tails of that second part.

His most powerful force attack ( TK or lightning preferably ) and the most powerful attack he's defended against please. Same for Arkaan thank you very much.

Arcann's best feat and best defensive feat is:

YouTube video

1.02 onwards.

Its legitimately amazing.

Also:

"This is the largest collection of Arcann feats and accolades. Respect the Dark Price."

Kek.

What I'm getting from what I've currently read is that the HoT has defended against force blasts from Vitiate that were a little less powerful then a force blast that could collapse a temple meaning Arkaan would have TK MORE powerful then this. Essentially TK blasts powerful enough to collapse a temple.

Which is fine. All I want to know is if he accomplished the feat of overwhelming the HoT on a Dark Side nexus.

Edit: Thank you for that. That defensive feat is amazing meaning Arkaan will not be overwhelmed in the force by anyone on team 2.

So to respond to you Fresh if Vader and Arkaan go for the weakest links, Obi Wan and Ventress, DD Vos and Maul will simply attack them while they're doing so causing them to lose their concentration and engage with them. Obi Wan and Ventress will join one of their teammates and the fight will go down as I said it would on the last page.

I don't think Arcann can beat any combination of the duo without abusing his power

Originally posted by carthage
I don't think Arcann can beat any combination of the duo without abusing his power

I agree. The only duo he has a chance against is Obi Wan and Ventress and even then I don't think he'd be able to abuse his advantage as he'd be too focused on fending off their combined attack. As I said on the last page I believe Obi Wan and Ventress could hold out long enough for DD Vos and Maul to take out Vader. And that wouldn't even be their best chance.

How comparable is HK-51 to Ventress and Obi-Wan, I wonder.

Originally posted by Nephthys
How comparable is HK-51 to Ventress and Obi-Wan, I wonder.

Probably not at all...

Originally posted by Syndicate
So to respond to you Fresh if Vader and Arkaan go for the weakest links, Obi Wan and Ventress, DD Vos and Maul will simply attack them while they're doing so causing them to lose their concentration and engage with them. Obi Wan and Ventress will join one of their teammates and the fight will go down as I said it would on the last page.

Yeah, Dooku's constant tooling of Obi-Wan and Ventress up until RotS and DD respectively doesn't exactly suggest that it takes some form of inhuman concentration to handle either with the Force. You haven't really explained why it would take such great effort and concentration to do either. Vader is greatest duelist here and can outduel anyone here. Arcann's not exactly lacking in dueling feats either. None of the other team is remotely comparable in the Force. The idea that numbers will somehow make up for that difference doesn't sit well, especially considering neither should have problem disabling Obi-Wan and quickly taking out Ventress.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Yeah, Dooku's constant tooling of Obi-Wan and Ventress up until RotS and DD respectively doesn't exactly suggest that it takes some form of inhuman concentration to handle either with the Force. You haven't really explained why it would take such great effort and concentration to do either. Vader is greatest duelist here and can outduel anyone here. Arcann's not exactly lacking in dueling feats either. None of the other team is remotely comparable in the Force. The idea that numbers will somehow make up for that difference doesn't sit well, especially considering neither should have problem disabling Obi-Wan and quickly taking out Ventress.

Dooku needed to draw greatly on his reserves in the force to KO RotS Kenobi. Even if Obi Wan and Ventress's force defenses were broken through immediately ( doubtful ) DD VoS and Maul aren't just going to be standing around. They'll either launch a force attack of their own which will break the concentration of Team 1 or engage them with their sabers doing the same.

Maul is about as skilled as Vader and is comparably powerful. Same goes for Vos.

Obi Wan and Ventress have moderately powerful force feats and are skilled duelists in their own rights.

Being pressured by duelists that are comparably skilled and that have a 2:1 advantage leaves you little time to draw on the force. Also isn't the starting distance relatively close when unspecified?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Dooku needed to draw greatly on his reserves in the force to KO RotS Kenobi. Even if Obi Wan and Ventress's force defenses were broken through immediately ( doubtful ) DD VoS and Maul aren't just going to be standing around. They'll either launch a force attack of their own which will break the concentration of Team 1 or engage them with their sabers doing the same.

Maul is about as skilled as Vader and is comparably powerful. Same goes for Vos.

Obi Wan and Ventress have moderately powerful force feats and are skilled duelists in their own rights.

Being pressured by duelists that are comparably skilled and that have a 2:1 advantage leaves you little time to draw on the force. Also isn't the starting distance relatively close when unspecified?

Might I remind you how quickly Arkann threw up his Force Barrier against the attack shown in Neph's provided video?

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Might I remind you how quickly Arkann threw up his Force Barrier against the attack shown in Neph's provided video?

I think Arkaan will have to end his attack on either Ventress or Obi Wan if he's forced to quickly throw up a barrier.

Originally posted by Nephthys
How comparable is HK-51 to Ventress and Obi-Wan, I wonder.

His aim is terrible, took him 3+ minutes to hit a dog-sized spider with a machine gun.

Pretty sure that clip was for comedy not versus discussion, rofl.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Dooku needed to draw greatly on his reserves in the force to KO RotS Kenobi.

Which he recovered from enough to fight Anakin with just as much energy in every strike.
Even if Obi Wan and Ventress's force defenses were broken through immediately ( doubtful ) DD VoS and Maul aren't just going to be standing around. They'll either launch a force attack of their own which will break the concentration of Team 1 or engage them with their sabers doing the same.

How long is it supposed to take to use TK?

Maul is about as skilled as Vader and is comparably powerful. Same goes for Vos.

No. Not even close. For either. In either category.

Obi Wan and Ventress have moderately powerful force feats and are skilled duelists in their own rights.

And they're both outclassed in every way here.

Being pressured by duelists that are comparably skilled and that have a 2:1 advantage leaves you little time to draw on the force.

The last one is an example of neutral starting distance.

Also isn't the starting distance relatively close when unspecified?

It's not like they're standing face to face.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No. Not even close. For either. In either category.