logan/elektra vs iron fist

Started by StiltmanFTW8 pages

And Robin is consistently on Val's level or surpassing him 👆

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Wtf kinda dumb question is that? Post living weapon Danny one shot killed a sun god who at the very least could survive in a sun.

But sure, the sun god never used his l33t ninja skills on panel... So it's totally rational to say he isn't at his own power level.


Yes. If you can't put any wins Rand has over an elite MA, you should stop whining.

Every MA worth his salt has feats like that. Cap knocked out ****ing Hulk with nothing more than punches. No sissy chi amping needed.

Do we take him on that level?

Originally posted by cdtm
Which MA has Superman beaten? Or the Silver Surfer?

I mean, Nitro knows **** all about martial arts, but I'm preeety sure not too many streets are beating him in a fight sans PIS, given he's a walking tac nuke.


Superman or Silver Surfer aren't Street level MA.

Rand is. And in character Rand isn't going to kill characters. GTFO with this CBR shit.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Rand is. And in character Rand isn't going to kill characters. GTFO with this CBR shit.

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Originally posted by cdtm
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Read the rules, if you haven't already.

If Rand doesn't kill, then neither does Elektra. Guess those sai's are worthless.

Are we arguing over whether Rand is bloodthirstier than Elektra?

One is a CEO and Avenger, the other, a ninja assassin.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Are we arguing over whether Rand is bloodthirstier than Elektra?

One is a CEO and Avenger, the other, a ninja assassin.....

We're arguing whether Abhi's even read Iron Fist.

"Out of character" my ass. I guess Danny's never punched the head clean off a human possessed by the Iron Fist Killer demon, or killed droves of Hydra (Including a blatant neck snap.)

Hell, Danny hits a kid with powers hard enough to KO him in the 80's, knowing full well he might kill him, and he's supposed to go easy on Elektra?

If Danny killing is CBR shite, then so is Elektra stabbing anyone with the sai's.

Originally posted by cdtm
If Rand doesn't kill, then neither does Elektra. Guess those sai's are worthless.

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Originally posted by cdtm
We're arguing whether Abhi's even read Iron Fist.

"Out of character" my ass. I guess Danny's never punched the head clean off a human possessed by the Iron Fist Killer demon, or killed droves of Hydra (Including a blatant neck snap.)

Hell, Danny hits a kid with powers hard enough to KO him in the 80's, knowing full well he might kill him, and he's supposed to go easy on Elektra?

If Danny killing is CBR shite, then so is Elektra stabbing anyone with the sai's.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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And in character Rand isn't going to kill characters.

Yeah. He is.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah. He is.

He is flat out a murderer?

Is Elektra?

But in self defense, he'd absolutely kill, and has.

You're the one who claimed Elektra would stick him with a sai. You don't normally just KO someone with a stab.

Originally posted by cdtm
Is Elektra?

But in self defense, he'd absolutely kill, and has.

You're the one who claimed Elektra would stick him with a sai. You don't normally just KO someone with a stab.


Yeah, Elektra is a murderer. Is Rand?

She can paralyze him just like she did with Logan.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, Elektra is a murderer. Is Rand?

She can paralyze him just like she did with Logan.

yes, he is. He has a very good track record of keeping his opponent alive but if his opponent is skilled or powerful enough to force his hand, he has no problem with killing them.

She could, but rand could also kill her from a distance with his chi.

Originally posted by deathslash
yes, he is. He has a very good track record of keeping his opponent alive but if his opponent is skilled or powerful enough to force his hand, he has no problem with killing them.

She could, but rand could also kill her from a distance with his chi.


No, he is not. I suggest reading some Iron Fist comics.

Yeah, like he goes around killing characters the first chance he gets.

Its like he's Sabretooth or something.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, he is not. I suggest reading some Iron Fist comics.

Yeah, like he goes around killing characters the first chance he gets.

Its like he's Sabretooth or something.

you clearly only read my first sentence then. I'll repeat it for you.

First, let's address whether or not rand is a murderer. The definition of a murderer is someone that has committed murder. Now, has rand killed people before? The answer is an undeniable yes. Does rand kill someone the first chance that he gets? No. Is rand willing to kill someone if they push him too far or force him to? Again, the answer is yes.

Now I ask you this, do you think that rand is going to hold back when one of the most skilled martial artists in the MU is consistently going for his jugular, heart, spine, or major arteries? Moreover, do you think that he's going to hold back while dealing with the aforementioned martial artist and her partner (a nearly unstoppable weapon if death with six steak knives coming out of his hands)?

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, he is not. I suggest reading some Iron Fist comics.

Yeah, like he goes around killing characters the first chance he gets.

Its like he's Sabretooth or something.

So how many heroes has Elektra killed?

Seeing we're calling her a murderer, who won't hesitate to kill a hero, I'm sure it's an extensive list.

No double standard here.

Fine, Wolverine kills him 😛

I can almost imagine it.

Cdtm: Master, NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Those claws should've bounced off your chest! What happened?! Was your K'un Lun weak today? Master? Don't die, Master!

Originally posted by deathslash
you clearly only read my first sentence then. I'll repeat it for you.

First, let's address whether or not rand is a murderer. The definition of a murderer is someone that has committed murder. Now, has rand killed people before? The answer is an undeniable yes. Does rand kill someone the first chance that he gets? No. Is rand willing to kill someone if they push him too far or force him to? Again, the answer is yes.

And is this the way he acts in character? He abhors killing. That's the first thing you should know if you actually like the character instead of acting like Carver and just liking "feats". Everyone has killed someone. Even Superman killed Doomsday when pushed too far.

Now am I going to claim he rips everyone apart because of that?

Now I ask you this, do you think that rand is going to hold back when one of the most skilled martial artists in the MU is consistently going for his jugular, heart, spine, or major arteries?

Yes. He didn't go all out in that sense against ****ing Gorgon.

Why would he do that here?

Moreover, do you think that he's going to hold back while dealing with the aforementioned martial artist and her partner (a nearly unstoppable weapon if death with six steak knives coming out of his hands)?

Yes. It's integrated in his character at this point. Reading comics help.

Or do you think he just spams IF on every character he fights?