Originally posted by philosophia
I can percieve supersonic planes flying, and if I would get Mjolnir I would also catch up to it.Doesn't mean I have supersonic reaction time or combat speed, though.
The fact that Thor was teleported near the ship, yet was slow enough that the ship was an interplantery distance away before he could begin chasing it, speaks volume of Thor's inexistent speed.
The idea that he is slow solely based on the ship being a far distance from him before he starts following is a bit funny. You know considering it was moving SEVERAL times the speed of light...
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Also it's not like porting immediately puts you in a state of motion. He literally just came out of a port and he notices the ship whizzing by him.
And really? Citing a back and forth with Brevoort of all people from a forum setting? What's worse is it's not even an official interview from a reputable site. I mean really? I know you are trying your best to put Thor in a bad light, but to cite a known industry troller? Come on Philo you better than that.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I'm sure I can too. But that is not what happened in the scene.The idea that he is slow solely based on the ship being a far distance from him before he starts following is a bit funny. You know considering it was moving SEVERAL times the speed of light...
😬Also it's not like porting immediately puts you in a state of motion. He literally just came out of a port and he notices the ship whizzing by him.
And really? Citing a back and forth with Brevoort of all people from a forum setting? What's worse is it's not even an official interview from a reputable site. I mean really? I know you are trying your best to put Thor in a bad light, but to cite a known industry troller? Come on Philo you better than that.
He really isn't. He is a shameless basher of Thor.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Right, great point Nevermind the fact that he was able to track and catch something that was moving many times the speed of light. That's why you are the lowball king.
Just to be clear about something I am going to make a statement: Thor has FTL reflexes. Is such a statement, to you, true or false?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I'm sure I can too. But that is not what happened in the scene.The idea that he is slow solely based on the ship being a far distance from him before he starts following is a bit funny. You know considering it was moving SEVERAL times the speed of light...
😬Also it's not like porting immediately puts you in a state of motion. He literally just came out of a port and he notices the ship whizzing by him.
And really? Citing a back and forth with Brevoort of all people from a forum setting? What's worse is it's not even an official interview from a reputable site. I mean really? I know you are trying your best to put Thor in a bad light, but to cite a known industry troller? Come on Philo you better than that.
I think Phildo is suggesting that, if I was to port you out on a road, and an F1 car whizzes by - sure, you'll see it, but by the time you have the reactions to think 'oh, its a car' (or whatever it is you think), it's already whizzed by.
Also, I never knew writer's interviews were allowed here.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆 B-class hero, A-class poster.
Take your point on versatility - but your analogy uses a guy who can't be KOed by physical means (by heralds, anyway). So a bit misleading. Polaris didn't beat Flash and Supes, either, remember - he threw ships at Superman, and Flash ran away from Polaris, rather than at him. Then they all fell back.And you're right, in COMICS, it isn't the be all and end all in fights. But in a forum fight? When both sides are comparable in physical stats (incl. durability)?
Not to mention, Wraith had speed of his own. But we both agree that Superman can hit Thor, that's fine.
How much faster would you say Superman was to Thor? as in, how many punches would Superman land on Thor?
Everyone knows Superman is faster than Thor, but based on actual comics Superman's blitzes have failed to put down multiple herald level characters before they could counter-attack. Orion, Mongul, Wraith, Straith (all of whom aren't exactly known for their speed) were able to fight back despite Superman's initial blitzes. And what about Major Disaster? Ulysses? Ocean Master? All are much slower, yet all have accomplished something Doomsday couldn't--knock Superman out and fairly easily at that.
How many speed blitzing punches could Superman land on Thor? About as many as he did on Orion, and they'd do about the same amount of damage if not less to Thor given his durability (i.e., not very much).
Even though this is a forum fight, it still has to be grounded in what's actually been accomplished in comics. That's why you don't see me going around saying Surfer creates singularities in everyone's eyes at the start of matches. Even in comics, Superman doesn't go full-speed for entire fights. They're always short bursts of speed and then when they fail, he relies on regular brute strength or in some cases wits like against Wraith. So since CIS is still on, is it more in character for Superman to tank attacks or dodge them?
I like how Vince is ignoring Superman actually beating someone stronger than him with a blitz.
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Wait, Wraith isn't known for speed? Orion isn't? One is actually faster than Superman and Orion was fighting with Superman at hypersonic speeds.
But yeah, going by that logic Superman still punches Thor out.
He's much stronger than Thor after all.
"Gurgle, ack, bonk".
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17That's the point, if Thor was even close to having impressive reactions, he would have been able to react to the ship as it was passing by him, not stand there like a statue while the ship goes planetary distances before he gets his bearings.
I'm sure I can too. But that is not what happened in the scene.The idea that he is slow solely based on the ship being a far distance from him before he starts following is a bit funny. You know considering it was moving SEVERAL times the speed of light...
As it is, Thor:
a). teleports close to the ship
b). the only panel actually showing this, depicts the ship already in the far off distance, while Thor goes "well, I'm a goddamn useless tortoise".
That does't show any kind of speed on Thor's part at all. It's the exact opposite of what you want to show.
That's why I gave you the Superman example.
The flashes are passing by him at FTL [while he is completely unaware of their presence beforehand - unlike Thor, who purposely teleported to meet the ship] , yet before they're able to advance 5 more meters to get to Darkseid, he percieves, recognizes and utters Barry's name.
In Thor's case:
The ship goes by him, it advances a ridiculous distance to the point where it's barely visible except its energy trail, and only afterwards does Thor go "I better follow that, and to do that I must use Mjonlir to be much faster".
This is a classic case of the example going the opposite direction of your point.
I gave you an example of what you'd like the Thor one to be, but isn't.
Another thing:
The scale of Superman's feat is a few meters.
The scale of Thor's feat is space.
It's easier to perceive a goddamn spaceship passing by at considerable distance from your point, than it is a person at a few meters.
Case in point:
Can you perceive a bullet moving pass you at mach one? The answer is no.
Can you perceive a plane moving at mach speed in the sky? Yes, you can.
Give it up, seriously. This example really makes Thor look bad.
No, you are just determined to discredit the feat by any bs means necessary. And I love your never ending supply of mon comparable real world examples. Somehow the fact that Thor is chasing and gaining on something that is travelling at impossible speeds, speeds that Superman couldn't conceive is beyond your comprehension. And the fact you are trying to lowball the feat is desperate. No one is buying it.