Darth Vader (ROTJ) and Ahsoka (Rebels) vs Sidious (ROTJ)

Started by EmperorSidious26 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
The fact he's leaving a trail of shady dealings over the Galaxy.

The force can't make him invisible and the endi were colossal morons.

Concession accepted.

Your saying things we already know, but you haven't answered the question how was anyone supposed to know? You've evaded that several times. If you don't answer this time you concede.

Of course not Quan, we can see him kiddo 😂 We just don't sense his dark signature.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Your saying things we already know, but you haven't answered the question how was anyone supposed to know? You've evaded that several times. If you don't answer this time you concede.

Of course not Quan, we can see him kiddo 😂 We just don't sense his dark signature.

the fact he was having numerous meetings with Dooku. The Jedi need to be aware and have their spies in place. They didn't and got wrecked. There were problems with the clones and they didn't break down the mystery further.

I saw it but the dummy Jedi didn't until it was too late.

Originally posted by quanchi112
the fact he was having numerous meetings with Dooku. The Jedi need to be aware and have their spies in place. They didn't and got wrecked. There were problems with the clones and they didn't break down the mystery further.

I saw it but the dummy Jedi didn't until it was too late.

How are THEY SUPPOSED TO KNOW. YOU IDIOT THATS THE QUESTION. WE KNOW HE WAS, BUT HOW ARE THEY. ITS ALL DONE IN SECRET.

Cause guess what we as the audience so things that they don't on purpose. We saw the original trilogy, they didn't so we know outcomes and such. We know information they don't. So concession accepted since you can't box your way out of this one.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
How are THEY SUPPOSED TO KNOW. YOU IDIOT THATS THE QUESTION. WE KNOW HE WAS, BUT HOW ARE THEY. ITS ALL DONE IN SECRET.

Cause guess what we as the audience so things that they don't on purpose. We saw the original trilogy, they didn't so we know outcomes and such. We know information they don't. So concession accepted since you can't box your way out of this one.

The fact a clone showed huge problems due to the order 66 being built in. I already said it. They never uncovered this. Anakin should have been suspicious when Palpatine ordered him to kill Dooku as well. We see the dark side come out but he's retarded as are the Jedi of that era. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
The fact a clone showed huge problems due to the order 66 being built in. I already said it. They never uncovered this. Anakin should have been suspicious when Palpatine ordered him to kill Dooku as well. We see the dark side come out but he's retarded as are the Jedi of that era. 😂

We are back to square one. The Jedi already knew that another Jedi or someone had already commissioned the order of the clones before he became Chancellor so you can't tie that to him. Even though WE know the truth, THEY don't. Why would he be suspicious of killing Dooku? Do you not know who Dooku was?

Don't join the military, police force, or any type of law enforcement, don't become a teacher, don't do anything. You know just stay at home, that's the only place you can't spread this. You have no common sense.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
We are back to square one. The Jedi already knew that another Jedi or someone had already commissioned the order of the clones before he became Chancellor so you can't tie that to him. Even though WE know the truth, THEY don't. Why would he be suspicious of killing Dooku? Do you not know who Dooku was?

Don't join the military, police force, or any type of law enforcement, don't become a teacher, don't do anything. You know just stay at home, that's the only place you can't spread this. You have no common sense.

They could tie that back to him they just weren't smart enough to do so. He should have been suspicious of his bloodthirsty nature in that scene.

The police don't preach the murder of downed opponents. You're an idiot if you think ethical police gun people down in cuffs. Darksiders do which is the point. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
They could tie that back to him they just weren't smart enough to do so. He should have been suspicious of his bloodthirsty nature in that scene.

The police don't preach the murder of downed opponents. You're an idiot if you think ethical police gun people down in cuffs. Darksiders do which is the point. 😂

So so so so so,your trying to tell me that they are going to tie back the creation of clones to someone who had no control of republic military would somehow be tied back to him? This is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. After 3 years of war everyone is blood thirsty. The Jedi council went all assainatikn on Dooku. You don't understand what a long time of war will do to ones morals.

No I'm saying, your so idiotic you would let Dooku live or be suspicious of why you were ordered to kill him, you are that stupid. That's why you don't need to be on anything like that because I wouldn't feel safe at night.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So so so so so,your trying to tell me that they are going to tie back the creation of clones to someone who had no control of republic military would somehow be tied back to him? This is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. After 3 years of war everyone is blood thirsty. The Jedi council went all assainatikn on Dooku. You don't understand what a long time of war will do to ones morals.

No I'm saying, your so idiotic you would let Dooku live or be suspicious of why you were ordered to kill him, you are that stupid. That's why you don't need to be on anything like that because I wouldn't feel safe at night.

The trail led back to him and the fact you believe three years is too much for the Jedi to figure out only further validates my pistol they are retarded.

The Jedi don't take orders from Palpatine and Anakin knew it was wrong to do. He was weak. Having him as a prisoner meant they could have extracted valuable information. The Jedi were moronic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The trail led back to him and the fact you believe three years is too much for the Jedi to figure out only further validates my pistol they are retarded.

The Jedi don't take orders from Palpatine and Anakin knew it was wrong to do. He was weak. Having him as a prisoner meant they could have extracted valuable information. The Jedi were moronic.

WE know that. THEY didn't. They couldn't figure it out until they knew who the Sith was which was a long time after. Actaully Sidious was chancellor for like 10-13 years. So that only proves that he hid his dark signature in the force.

Actaully they do. They take orders from the senate, and Sidious was in control of the senate so they take orders from him if he deems it so unless it interferes with their traditions. Military wise and as servants of the republic yes they do what he says. Having him alive could have meant he could have escaped like he did in Dark Disciple.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
WE know that. THEY didn't. They couldn't figure it out until they knew who the Sith was which was a long time after. Actaully Sidious was chancellor for like 10-13 years. So that only proves that he hid his dark signature in the force.

Actaully they do. They take orders from the senate, and Sidious was in control of the senate so they take orders from him if he deems it so unless it interferes with their traditions. Military wise and as servants of the republic yes they do what he says. Having him alive could have meant he could have escaped like he did in Dark Disciple.

Yes, I agree they are stupid and couldn't figure it out. People today figure out murders from 20 plus years ago with a lot less manpower and resources as the Jedi.

Not the Jedi. They don't just bow to his whims. Anakin dis but he was weak. Very weak.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I agree they are stupid and couldn't figure it out. People today figure out murders from 20 plus years ago with a lot less manpower and resources as the Jedi.

Not the Jedi. They don't just bow to his whims. Anakin dis but he was weak. Very weak.

I'm going to tell you this now. If you were in there shoes you wouldn't have figured it out. I know that for a fact.

Yes they take orders from him. He is the supreme Chancellor of the republic=President of the United States. The Jedi are Generals/commanders=to human us army counterparts. The soldiers/Generals take orders from the president.

On behalf of every debater in history, please ****ing stop this debate. God damn.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I'm going to tell you this now. If you were in there shoes you wouldn't have figured it out. I know that for a fact.

Yes they take orders from him. He is the supreme Chancellor of the republic=President of the United States. The Jedi are Generals/commanders=to human us army counterparts. The soldiers/Generals take orders from the president.

No, the Jedi operates separately and if they blindly did what he wanted they wouldn't have wanted to spy on Palpatine. They were wishing up finally but it was too little too late. Watch the film.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
On behalf of every debater in history, please ****ing stop this debate. God damn.
I will never stop. I'll break him like I broke Darth Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I will never stop. I'll break him like I broke Darth Thor.

Possible Response #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoo8B7MFUY0&t=1m06s

Possible Response #2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwNQUF2C2vE&t=0m36s

NOTE: I expect #2 to fully fly over your head.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Possible Response #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoo8B7MFUY0&t=1m06s

Possible Response #2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwNQUF2C2vE&t=0m36s

NOTE: I expect #2 to fully fly over your head.

As soon as I saw it was that Revan guy I safely clicked off before it started. Close call.

Don't say that Quan. You gotta respect Ant's right to a safe space.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the Jedi operates separately and if they blindly did what he wanted they wouldn't have wanted to spy on Palpatine. They were wishing up finally but it was too little too late. Watch the film.

Yea and the film shows they mistrust him as a politician not as a Sith. This is over. You've lost as you do everytime.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
This is over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiM5zEEI_Jo&t=1m29s