Vandal Savage vs Ozymandias

Started by Time-Immemorial4 pages

Vandal Savage vs Ozymandias

Both have week prep and knowledge of one another.

Savage is coming to destroy New York.

New York gets destroyed.

Okay has access to Manhattan

Had to give Ozy a lot of padding huh.

Ozy, easily

How would Ozy take him down?

Savage was able to take an arrow to the chest, pluck it out, and continue like it was nothing. Was also able to react fast enough to hit Flash.

But even Savage can't mess with Manhattan, unless the staff of horus can hurt him somehow.

You don't get into a prep war with Ozy. I have no idea how he'd take him down, I only know, that he would take him down.

KT is right, Ozy did stop a immortal, one much more powerful then Savage.

And did trick Manhatten who can see the future.

I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: “Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
‘My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
KT is right, Ozy did stop a immortal, one much more powerful then Savage.

And did trick Manhatten who can see the future.

How did he stop an immortal? He used a device to try to kill him, it failed. Manhattan chose not to do anything because he thought the world would be better off.

I also thought Manhattan couldn't see his own future?

Ozymandias didn't stop Manhattan per se, but was smart enough to drop billions into tachyon research in order to momentarily stop Doc's vision, smart enough to play on Manhattan's emotions(when no one else could read Manhattan); making it so Manhanntan would leave earth and smart enough to know that Manhattan would ultimately agree with what he did.

He's a supreme master of prep, the one thing he failed at was thinking Manhattan could be destroyed, but even then he had a contingency plan, his plan.

Originally posted by Robtard
I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: “Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
‘My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

Love it!!!

Originally posted by Robtard
Ozymandias didn't stop Manhattan per se, but was smart enough to drop billions into tachyon research in order to momentarily stop Doc's vision, smart enough to play on Manhattan's emotions(when no one else could read Manhattan); making it so Manhanntan would leave earth and smart enough to know that Manhattan would ultimately agree with what he did.

He's a supreme master of prep, the one thing he failed at was thinking Manhattan could be destroyed, but even then he had a contingency plan, his plan.

Is it wrong this post aroused me?

Ozymandias didn't have just a week of prep against Manhattan though. It took him a long time to put things in place for that. Plus the fact that he knows Manhattan personally is a big part of how he accomplished his plan.

Okay, and Manhattan is exponentially more powerful and a better foe than anybody Vandal went up against, let alone did well against.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Okay, and Manhattan is exponentially more powerful and a better foe than anybody Vandal went up against, let alone did well against.

Yes, but that still doesn't change the fact that he needed way way more time than just a week to get his plan to work plus the fact that he had to have intimate knowledge about Manhattan to know the person's interests and principles.

What I'm saying is that that feat is not exactly a great example of how Ozy will deal with Savage, since it was able to happen under very specific circumstances.

We know that Savage was capable of blowing up an entire city after outfighting an entire room of people who would stomp Ozy into the ground. All in the span of 24 hours. He could have done it sooner but he wanted to give them a fighting chance.

We also know that he's been brilliant enough to subtly leave his mark on the world and work his way into positions of power through the ages and is one of the best strategists and planners in recorded history.

In fact the only way Ozy can do anything is to just tell Manhattan to blow Savage up, which is kinda unfair as he has no defense against that unless the SoH can work to protect him.

You're saying that each person Vandal was outfighting are above Ozy?