DP Tyrant runs an Amped JLA Gauntlet

Originally posted by Delta1938
I recall you gushing over it when the feat wasn't used against you.

Held a solar system busting black hole.

Not sure which scene he was referring to.

I believe he's referring to Pre-DOS Superman sending a giant worm the size of a mountain through miles of ice or so.

Regardless of what you think about Hal helping, that was far more than moving Earth considering Starbreaker's involvement.

Well are talking about destroying things. Make a thread if you want to discuss this further.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I recall you gushing over it when the feat wasn't used against you.

Held a solar system busting black hole.

Not sure which scene he was referring to.

I believe he's referring to Pre-DOS Superman sending a giant worm the size of a mountain through miles of ice or so.

Regardless of what you think about Hal helping, that was far more than moving Earth considering Starbreaker's involvement.

Yes those feats. The one where he moved a jupiter size ship was nu superman witg mmh help.

In any case Carver does not understand that most of those feats translate into enough power to destroy the earth.

Unless carver thinks that moving an object with 317.8 times the mass of earth it means Superman cannot destroy earth. Even if this is a shared feat Superman exerted enough force to move 158.9 times the mass of earth.

Or to hold a black hole with enough mass to destroy the solar system also will require more than enough force to destroy earth

Also stopping small sized moon ships coming out from hyperspace will generate more than enough force to destroy earth.

Or moving earth and restoring it to it's orbital trench against the force of starbreaker. That also translates into more than enough force to destroy earth.

Hulk on the other hand need help to bust a planet on the dark dimension.

But that is Carver's logic.

You should challenge him Delta.

I will but I can't right now.

Originally posted by carver9
Well are talking about destroying things. Make a thread if you want to discuss this further.

Any of those feats translates in enough force to destroy earth sized planets several times over. If one is smart enough to connect the dots that is. 🙂
Not saying you are not smart enough, just conveniently overlook them. 🙂

Hey, I'll take that BZ. Rao, you can provide scans and their context to me.

Originally posted by carver9
Well are talking about destroying things. Make a thread if you want to discuss this further.

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I loved this Hulk tangent! 😂

Originally posted by riv6672
I loved this Hulk tangent! 😂

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hey, I'll take that BZ. Rao, you can provide scans and their context to me.

😂 I will gladly give you the scans and context. I juat don't think Carver will talk to you.

HE MAD!

On topic I think DP Tyrant wil have a lot problems defeating Batman on the mobious chair. That freaking chair is ubber. Not saying Batman will win but I don't think Tyrant can clear this gauntlet.

You know, i've never been in the BZ. Weird.

Originally posted by riv6672
You know, i've never been in the BZ. Weird.

Me neither. For one reason or another the BZ's I was about to take, never happened in the end.

I've just never seen the point of the forum.
Its weird my curiosity's never gotten the best of me though.

It lets people ger creative and sharpen skills, I guess.

Meh, just seems like a more anal way to debate.
Still, if fun is had then cool.
Thing us, i've been here on slow days, and the BZ has never even crossed my mind to visit. The weirdness isnt the forum its my blind spot to it.

Originally posted by riv6672
Meh, just seems like a more anal way to debate.
Still, if fun is had then cool.
Thing us, i've been here on slow days, and the BZ has never even crossed my mind to visit. The weirdness isnt the forum its my blind spot to it.

Yeah, because it's just hidden away in a separate section, really. Does depend on one being more...serious about comics, as it were.

Originally posted by carver9
Well are talking about destroying things. Make a thread if you want to discuss this further.

That's kinda cute Carver. What don't you make the thread? I'll debate against you.

Stop at the flash.

^^^thanks!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, because it's just hidden away in a separate section, really. Does depend on one being more...serious about comics, as it were.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman never busted a planet, let alone a mountain.

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superman has busted the equivalent of 700 earths, sit down boy

Originally posted by carver9
Superman never busted a planet, let alone a mountain.

🙂

1) Now first of all, I'd like to clear up some shit on this page specifically in regards to where the Moon's mass is stated on-panel:

"The Shadow's mass will be the same as the real Moon."

"81 Billion tons."

Now, that second line of dialogue, as stated by Batman, is false - the Mass of the Moon is not 81 Billion tons but is instead, in fact, much closer to 81 Billion Billion tons at 81 Quintillion tons, or at 73 Sextillion kilograms. I've also heard marvel **** drip try and suggest that the DC Comics variant of the Earth's Moon had possessed one billion times less mass than our real-life Moon, but this claim is also false. The writer of Justice League Vol. 2 #30, Dwayne McDuffie, had later specifically mentioned on his own website that he had tried to, and made a error in, calculating the real-life Moon's mass for this comic, as well as that he had originally intended to utilize the actual Moon's mass of 81 Quintillion tons. This is also very evident even in the dialogue itself, where it's clearly stated that the Shadow Moon's mass "will be the same as the real Moon", yet the distinction still wouldn't make much sense, if Earth's Moon in the DC Universe had possessed one billion times less mass than our real-life Moon.

2) For some "reason", some people always seem to selectively forget the basic scientific principal of "Force = Mass*Acceleration", even when it's been spoon-fed to them - it's also even funnier because that exact same comic, which had mentioned the F=MA equation on-panel, has already established that the Mass of the Shadow Moon, as well as the fact that it was heading to Earth. Still, do we know just how fast it was going?

"My ring clocks it at 7,614,000 km per hour"

...and thank you, Green Lantern! Now, we have everything that we need to figure out just how much Kinetic Energy the Shadow Moon was exerting while heading for Earth, and how much Superman had to exert to stop it! Keep in mind that Superman didn't simply "stop" the Shadow Moon either - he actually was able to not only match the Shadow Moon's forward momentum, moving at 7,614,000 km per hour or 2,115,000 m/s, but also outright shattered it into fragments and exerted far more than the necessary power to pulverize it.

KE = 1/2mv^2

KE = 1/2(73 Sextillion*2,115,000)^2

KE = 1.632727124e+35 Joules

Calculating the Kinetic Energy of the Shadow Moon has given us a result of 3.9 Quintillion Megatons of force - that's enough energy to destroy Earth 735.84x over!!!! good god... ****ing supes!!!!! heres the feat in action:

superman>hulk.

The only difference between Hulk and Supes feats? Hulk is limited by the fact he cant fly.