The Walking Dead: WAR!!!

Started by StiltmanFTW7 pages
Originally posted by Galan007
Thanks! I just wish there were more fans of TWD comic series here, because I think this thread could spark really good debates. 🙁

It certainly could. More TWD threads would be nice in general, but most posters are only familiar with the tv show...

Marvel and DC are not everything, sigh.

Originally posted by Galan007
Out of the 3 remaining Communities, which do you think would win the 'all out war'?

Hard to say, because we still don't have enough data about the Whisperers. I'm particularly curious about their ways of controlling the herds of roamers. Are they more effective than Rick's? Seems like it.

Rick's gotten rusty, I'd say. Then again, he does have "give ammo" cheat code under his belt...

I'm undecided here. Want to see the horde in action first.

OT: It's funny how Dwight looks like an hamburger'd old Rick. With everything and the leadership crisis.

Originally posted by deathslash
he'll no! With the saviors, almost all of them men are military. However, I have a question for you. Between twenty highly trained men and women that have either sniper rifles, semiautomatic pistols, and automatic machine guns and one fairly well trained man with 99 unskilled men with ( 96 of which have melee weapons) who do you think will win?
That depends entirely on very particular variables: the location/setting of the battle, their distance apart, etc.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hard to say, because we still don't have enough data about the Whisperers. I'm particularly curious about their ways of controlling the herds of roamers. Are they more effective than Rick's? Seems like it.
I'd think so. After all, the Whisperers actually live among Walkers. They are intimately familiar with their mannerisms and whatnot.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
OT: It's funny how Dwight looks like an hamburger'd old Rick. With everything and the leadership crisis.
Yeah, Dwight finally dusted off Lucille, though, so it looks like he's ready to tighten up his leadership a bit. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
That depends entirely on very particular variables: the location/setting of the battle, their distance apart, etc.
true. It also depends on the personalities and fighting styles of the characters. Rick and his group strike me as more defensive while negan and his group seem more offense oriented. I could see negan's crew coming over to alexandria more than I could see rick's crew coming over to the savior's compound. Alexandria is also a fairly easy place to defend (with its large, solid walls, buildings for cover, and sniper's perches).

Originally posted by Galan007
True, but that's kind of a one-trick pony. If Alpha unleashes the horde against Woodbury, the chances of her being able to round-up/contain that many Walkers again before the final battle are slim. I'm sure she could still put together a sizable herd in the 1 month reorganization period I've allowed before the 'all out war' commences, but collecting a horde that massive would have taken monthS... Possibly years.

...Though I suppose the other Communities could also try to employ the same tactic of using groups of Walkers as a weapon, after hearing how well it worked for the Whisperers. So there's also that to consider. /shrug

Assuming firearms aren't allowed, Jesus would pummel the absolute shit out of all of them at the same time.

The dude's h2h skills are WAY above anyone else in TWD. He can(and has) solo'd large groups of Walkers, as well as groups of well-trained people. His skills are probably the most 'comic bookie' TWD has to offer. He's a legit badass.

Yeah Jesus is the biggest BA in the entire series.

Heck he soloed Abraham and Michonne for his first appearance without using any weapons while they were both armed.

Originally posted by deathslash
true. It also depends on the personalities and fighting styles of the characters. Rick and his group strike me as more defensive while negan and his group seem more offense oriented. I could see negan's crew coming over to alexandria more than I could see rick's crew coming over to the savior's compound. Alexandria is also a fairly easy place to defend (with its large, solid walls, buildings for cover, and sniper's perches).
Definitely agree. Alexandria is probably the most well-fortified Community, but as Negan demonstrated: it's walls can absolutely be breached in times of war.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah Jesus is the biggest BA in the entire series.

Heck he soloed Abraham and Michonne for his first appearance without using any weapons while they were both armed.

👆

Posting the fight just because it's pure badassery:

Jesus also MA'd a group of Walkers with his hands tied behind his back(literally):

Lol.

Originally posted by Galan007
Definitely agree. Alexandria is probably the most well-fortified Community, but as Negan demonstrated: it's walls can absolutely be breached in times of war.

👆

Posting the fight just because it's pure badassery:

Jesus also MA'd a group of Walkers with his hands tied behind his back(literally):

Lol.

Yup and the next few pages he shows Rick he could have freed himself the entire time so he didn't even have to fight with his hands tied up.

And in recent issues He soloed several whisperers, all armed with melee weapons. Dude's a beast.

Yeah, Jesus is the Karate Kid of TWDverse.

I thought Michonne was overpowered --- but then Jesus appeared and made her look like nobody.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, Jesus is the Karate Kid of TWDverse.

I thought Michonne was overpowered --- but then Jesus appeared and made her look like nobody.

Jesus make everyone look like a nobody uhuh

He is definitely the most comic booky martial artists in the entire series.

I also would love to see more Walking Dead threads myself.

Also as to the topic at hand I'm probably going to pick the Saviers overall.

The Whisperers seem pretty dangerous and they have that massive heard but the saviors to me seemed like the most well armed group out of all of them except for maybe the tank.

They had grenades and they had plenty of guns when we saw them take on Rick. It took all three of the other communities joining forces plus inside help to finally take Negan down.

This thread is just......lawd.....

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
And in recent issues He soloed several whisperers, all armed with melee weapons. Dude's a beast.
👆

And it was a pretty large group at that:

No. Effort.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, Jesus is the Karate Kid of TWDverse.

I thought Michonne was overpowered --- but then Jesus appeared and made her look like nobody.

It's like comparing a Jedi Master to a Padawan.

Hopefully Kirkman gives us Jesus' backstory soon, like he promised. I'd like to know where he acquired such haxxed h2h skills. 👆

Originally posted by Newjak
Jesus make everyone look like a nobody

He is definitely the most comic booky martial artists in the entire series.

I also would love to see more Walking Dead threads myself.

Also as to the topic at hand I'm probably going to pick the Saviers overall.

The Whisperers seem pretty dangerous and they have that massive heard but the saviors to me seemed like the most well armed group out of all of them except for maybe the tank.

They had grenades and they had plenty of guns when we saw them take on Rick. It took all three of the other communities joining forces plus inside help to finally take Negan down.

This actually brings up a good point: how do the other groups get around Woodbury's tank?

Originally posted by Galan007
Well the Walker-horde Alpha keeps as a 'deterrent' is absolutely massive--the largest we've seen in the series, by far:

But she also seemed kind of hesitant to actually use them(for obvious reasons), so I'm not sure what it'd take for her to release them on her enemies... Though I'm sure if her people were being slaughtered en gros, she wouldn't think twice. /shrug

🤨 That is a game changer alone

Unless you have a few balloons and noise makers to distract them all away.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Unless you have a few balloons and noise makers to distract them all away. [/B]

Tv show =/= comic.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Tv show =/= comic.

Que?

Originally posted by the Darkone
🤨 That is a game changer alone
Absolutely. But again: it's kind of a one-trick pony. They can use the horde to win one of the battles, but likely not both.

...Unless they've developed some state of the art way to corral Walkers fast as phuck, of course. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
This actually brings up a good point: how do the other groups get around Woodbury's tank?
Well, the saviors have grenades, and I'm pretty sure Rick would go full monster if He was given the chance to take revenge on the Governor.

I can see Rick using molotovs on the tank to cook alive the people inside.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Unless you have a few balloons and noise makers to distract them all away. [/B]

Balloons never "appeared" in the book.

And we're talking about several/dozens of herds combo'd together, it's not gonna be easy to dilute the horde.

Originally posted by Galan007
Absolutely. But again: it's kind of a one-trick pony. They can use the horde to win one of the battles, but likely not both.

...Unless they've developed some state of the art way to corral Walkers fast as phuck, of course. /shrug

Yes.

The best for Alpha would be to wait and take on the winner, but considering it's a free-for-all between the three at the start, she can't do that.

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As for Governor's tank -- sure it was a factor vs. Rick&co in the "Prison Saga", but I don't see it being much useful after that. I mean, the tank operator could barely drive it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Balloons never "appeared" in the book.

And we're talking about several/dozens of herds combo'd together, it's not gonna be easy to dilute the horde.

Can't say for the comic, gave up on that about the time they got to the prison, but as for the show. From what I have seen. You attract the attention of enough of the herd and the whole thing will just follow the flow. Like how the farm go overran . A copter flew over and that giant herd just turned in that direction and never stopped. With carful planning and taking the right mesures. You could deal with the herd. As long as you don't OVERCOMPLICATE it like Rick did at the end of this current season on the show.

Rick is a dumb ass.