Originally posted by Adam GrimesBetween Rick and Michonne, there would be some serious Governor-hate going around, lol.
Well, the saviors have grenades, and I'm pretty sure Rick would go full monster if He was given the chance to take revenge on the Governor.I can see Rick using molotovs on the tank to cook alive the people inside.
*Sidenote
I would absolutely LOVE to see a Governor/Negan meeting... If only to see Negan take a steaming shit on that faux-evil banter the Guv liked to use to intimidate others. God that would be epic. droolio
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWNo, she'd have to unleash them more or less right from the onset, and hope for the best. One thing's for sure: all the groups combined likely don't have enough ammo to kill the entirety of that horde... But I don't think Alpha can really control it either. She'd just have to set it free and watch the random chaos ensue.
Balloons never "appeared" in the book.And we're talking about several/dozens of herds combo'd together, it's not gonna be easy to dilute the horde.
Yes.
The best for Alpha would be to wait and take on the winner, but considering it's a free-for-all between the three at the start, she can't do that.
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As for Governor's tank -- sure it was a factor vs. Rick&co in the "Prison Saga", but I don't see it being much useful after that. I mean, the tank operator could barely drive it.
Where the tank is concerned: the operator was a borderline idiot, but it still makes for a superb battering ram--be it for breaching walls, or plowing through a Walker horde. Seems like another group destroying it might be a tactical error, imo... It'd be a great spoil of war if at all possible. /shrug
Originally posted by Don DraperIn the 'Letter Hacks' section of issue #135:
WHAT!!! When was that promised to us?
Looking back at it now, I guess it's a little more ambiguous then I first thought. However, it still implies that we'll get more info on Jesus and Negan at some point in the near future... Which is a great thing. 👆
Originally posted by Don DraperHere's some icing on the cake, then... 🙂
Oh and thx for the Jesus scans. The dude is WAY better then I thought. 😱
Jesus owns a group of Negan's men(who were all armed with automatic weapons), before blitzing Negan himself and holding him hostage:
Normally I'm not a fan of homo characters, but Jesus is just so f*cking awesome that it doesn't even matter. 👆
...But I imagine that once he appears in the show and starts racking up badass feats, most people will try to hop on the bandwagon. F*ckin pretenders. 👇
Originally posted by NewjakTbh I don't even know if it'd be a viable tactic to not take out the tank ASAP. Trying to keep it intact might cost more lives then it would save. I just think it would be an extremely valuable asset to another group, IF there were a way to beat it without destroying it.
I guess you just have to wait for the tank to run out of fuel?
What sucks is that we don't have any showings to pull from. In the comics, Rick's group never beat the tank... They just ran from it. But then again, the survivors weren't nearly as clever(or well armed) back then as they are now.
srug
Originally posted by Galan007What happened after that last panel?
In the 'Letter Hacks' section of issue #135:Looking back at it now, I guess it's a little more ambiguous then I first thought. However, it still implies that we'll get more info on Jesus and Negan at some point in the near future... Which is a great thing. 👆
Here's some icing on the cake, then... 🙂
Jesus owns a group of Negan's men(who were all armed with automatic weapons), before blitzing Negan himself and holding him hostage:
Normally I'm not a fan of homo characters, but Jesus is just so f*cking awesome that it doesn't even matter. 👆
...But I imagine that once he appears in the show and starts racking up badass feats, most people will try to hop on the bandwagon. F*ckin pretenders. 👇
Originally posted by Galan007jesus is easily the most skilled character of all of TWD characters. I love that guy. 👆
In the 'Letter Hacks' section of issue #135:Looking back at it now, I guess it's a little more ambiguous then I first thought. However, it still implies that we'll get more info on Jesus and Negan at some point in the near future... Which is a great thing. 👆
Here's some icing on the cake, then... 🙂
Jesus owns a group of Negan's men(who were all armed with automatic weapons), before blitzing Negan himself and holding him hostage:
Normally I'm not a fan of homo characters, but Jesus is just so f*cking awesome that it doesn't even matter. 👆
...But I imagine that once he appears in the show and starts racking up badass feats, most people will try to hop on the bandwagon. F*ckin pretenders. 👇
Originally posted by Galan007I mean the tank is cool but ultimately the things that make tanks really dangerous in a fight is they make things go boom. This tank can't make things go boom. So it is a more dangerous ram at this point. It definitely could destroy any fortification put in front of it. You could swarm the tank though since it doesn't have any counter measures and the Savirors Grenades could prove useful in quickly disabling the tank.
Tbh I don't even know if it'd be a viable tactic to not take out the tank ASAP. Trying to keep it intact might cost more lives then it would save. I just think it would be an extremely valuable asset to another group, IF there were a way to beat it without destroying it.What sucks is that we don't have any showings to pull from. In the comics, Rick's group never beat the tank... They just ran from it. But then again, the survivors weren't nearly as clever(or well armed) back then as they are now.
srug
Originally posted by MindsetShiva(Ezekiel's pet tiger) attacked and inadvertently created a distraction that allowed Negan to get away.
What happened after that last panel?
Originally posted by NewjakWhen you're fighting a group that has a horde consisting of several-thousand Walkers at its disposal, a tank would be an invaluable defensive weapon as well.
I mean the tank is cool but ultimately the things that make tanks really dangerous in a fight is they make things go boom. This tank can't make things go boom. So it is a more dangerous ram at this point. It definitely could destroy any fortification put in front of it. You could swarm the tank though since it doesn't have any counter measures and the Savirors Grenades could prove useful in quickly disabling the tank.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWThe tank can fire ordinance. Jared(the operator) just never got around to learning how to load/fire the canon. He never had to.
Ah, true. The nades. Yeah, that'd take care of the tank that can't fire back pretty easily.
But remember: I've given the groups a month of prep here. That said, it's conceivable that such a basic skill could be learned in a month(assuming Woodbury actually has ordinance to fire, of course--which did seem to be the case.) But who knows? Jared was a borderline retard, after all, so a month might not be long enough. 😖
Originally posted by Galan007
Shiva(Ezekiel's pet tiger) attacked and inadvertently created a distraction that allowed Negan to get away.When you're fighting a group that has a horde consisting of several-thousand Walkers at its disposal, a tank would be an invaluable defensive weapon as well.
The tank can fire ordinance. Jared(the operator) just never got around to learning how to load/fire the canon. He never had to.
But remember: I've given the groups a month of prep here. That said, it's conceivable that such a basic skill could be learned in a month(assuming Woodbury actually has ordinance to fire, of course--which did seem to be the case.) But who knows? Jared was a borderline retard, after all, so a month might not be long enough. 😖
True the tank would be extremely useful against the Whispers but the Whispers could still potentially swarm the tank. Once on top drop a molotov cocktail inside or something.
True they never learned how to fire the tank and possibly could. The question is hard will it be to learn that skill. I'm not sure it would be interesting to ask an actual tank crew what their thoughts on that would be. If they could learn how to make tank go boom than that is serious firepower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eETvj6bIpuA
(Skip to the 1:05 mark, and keep your volume low.)
I guess it might be harder than it looks, but it looks really basic to load the ordinance. From there, it would just be a matter of aiming/firing the cannon. I'd *think* you'd at least be able to pick up the basics in a month's time.
But again: there might be more to it than meets the eye.
Originally posted by Galan007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eETvj6bIpuA
(Skip to the 1:05 mark, and keep your volume low.)I guess it might be harder than it looks, but it looks really basic to load the ordinance. From there, it would just be a matter of aiming/firing the cannon. I'd *think* you'd at least be able to pick up the basics in a month's time.
But again: there might be more to it than meets the eye.
That also is predicated on getting a main idea to start you off with.
Without youtube, or a manual (which I assume they don;t have, else they'd know by now), can you pick it up apropos of nothing? It's not even as if you can safely experiment and play around..
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWOh I'm sure it does. However, the tank in that clip was a newer model according to the comments. I can't imagine older models being more complex to operate. I'm also assuming the tank in the comic was American-designed, based on the fact that the Guv acquired it from American military. /shrug
Maybe it depends on the tank model?Kirkman never discussed it in Letter Hacks?
If he did, I never caught it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85With basic knowledge of tank operation(which they had), and moderate knowledge of firearms/munitions(which they had), yes, I believe it is something you could piece together "apropos of nothing"(douchey wording, btw facepalm.) The question is how long it would take to do so.
That also is predicated on getting a main idea to start you off with.Without youtube, or a manual (which I assume they don;t have, else they'd know by now), can you pick it up apropos of nothing? It's not even as if you can safely experiment and play around..
I mean, the Guv implied that loading/firing the cannon was something they *could* have figured out had they got around to it... But because they never did, it's hard to say how long it would have taken them.
Just trying to throw around some options, is all. 🙁
