Originally posted by jaden101
You're right about so called NuTrek so far. You'd be completely and utterly wrong to argue for star wars in a full canon debate. Trek has beings that can wipe out entire civilizations with a mere thought.
Star Wars has beings that have complete control over space, time, matter and - unlike anybody we've seen in Star Trek, can bring back the dead.
Total nonsense. The Borg alone have stated numbers far in excess of Star Wars. Millions of planets, billions of ships and trillions of drones.
You are aware of the fact, that Coruscant alone has more than a trillion inhabitants?. One single planet in the Star Wars universe. You were saying? And Star Wars, you know, spans an entire Galaxy, with the Republic alone having more than a million member systems. And this is just a momentary picture out of history that spans a 100,000 years with interstellar space-travel being used as long as 40,000 years at last.
By comparison the katana fleet in the thrawn trilogy was said to be able to change the balance of power in the galaxy and it was only 500 clone Wars era ships.
You may want to check your facts before opening your mouth.
First: The Katana fleet just had 200 ships, of which 178 were active in Thrawn time. Second: They were just a "game changer" in the state of the Galaxy at that particular point. In the hight of the Galactic Empire, 200 capital ships of that size wouldn't even have been noticed given the size of the Imperial Navy.
Their most common vessel, the cube, is bigger in every dimension than a Star Destroyer is long.
And still, a Star Destroyer has the energy output of a small sun, which kind of dwarves everything the Borg have access to.
Transwarp hubs allows travel across a comparable sized galaxy in minutes.
I think you wanted to say "days" and not "minutes", and just after those hubs have been installed. Otherwise a 10,000 lightyear journey takes even the Borg a year. Your usual hyperdrive in SW can do that in about an hour.
The Douwd wipe out entire species with a thought.
Emperor Vitiate (SW:TOR) has depopulized entire planets with Force rituals and was about to end all life in the SW Galaxy with one. And, unlike the Douwd, the Bedlam spirits of the SW universe were not only capable of killing with a thought - but ressurecting at will. Pretty much beyond anything ST has to offer.
The krenim can wipe out entire civilizations with their time weapon by erasing them from ever existing.
Yup. That worked quite well for them, didn't it?
An unnamed civilisation built a Dyson sphere in ST that was the size of earth's orbit around the sun. A feat that is several hundred thousand times larger than the death star.
Nice.
Kuat Drive Yards, the facility that produces those nice Star Destroyers, is built as a connected ring orbiting a planet. The main idea about a Dyson sphere is harnessing all power a star puts out. The Star Forge and Starkiller base in the SW universe are capable of doing the same. The two Death Stars even produce far more power than your usual sun. And, by the way, the second Death Star was build in less than three years. I wonder how long the construction of the Dyson sphere took.
And of course, the SW universe has Centerpoint Station, a tech relic capable of moving planets around space with FTL speeds.
7 Small single pilot species 8472 ships can combine and do what the death star can do.
*Yawn*
The Sun Crusher, a virtual indestructible ship, could vaporize entire star systems by causing supernovas. It was just a little bit bigger than a starfighter, had just a single pilot and had to be navigated into a black hole in order to get rid of it.
And seriously: When did those bioships ever destroy a planet?
A small fleet of ships did to a planet in seconds what a Star Destroyer Base delta zero attack takes hours. The defiant alone is stated to be able to lay waste to a planet
Really?
I'm not sure you even understand what "Base Delta Zero" means. It means reducing the top soil of the planet (to a depth of several kilometers) to molten slag. Depopulizing a planet or even destroying the surface is within the possibilities of todays humanity. A "Base Delta Zero" operation is not. And that is still nothing compared to the Death Stars, Starkiller base or the Sun Crusher.
Trek has Wars beaten in numbers, firepower, superpowered beings. Everything.
In the mind of somebody who has clearly zero idea about the SWU, that might be the case...