Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok since you've backtracked again we will do this after the film is available to post links and when you have time and the mood to do so. Agreed ?
Are you as dense as a neutron star or something. Can you read? Can you process information given to you? Apparently not.
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[*]There is still no opponent representing Star Trek. Just you.
[*]I'm not planning debates on KMC a year in advance.
[*]I can't tell if I would be interested any longer.
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In short:
No.
I didn't set up this challenge thread for you because you're a pansy who has never had one official battlezone. You acted like you're interested but quake in fear of the numbers Star Trek Beyond is going to have.
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No, that would mean I'd change simply by any dumbass who strode my way and pounded his chest. I do battlezones I believe in. I do ones I am interested in and will sacrifice the time and energy to make my case for the specific ones I issue challenges for. This isn't a battlezone quan in anything challenge. Read the op. You've already expressed an interest in this debate and have put up multiple posts so you won't need to produce anywhere near the time for one since you've already basically started.
Red herring once again.
You challenge people to BZs and call them cowards, if they don't accept (for whatever reason). If the same is done to you, you attempt to rationalize. Face it: By your own standards, you're a coward. And nothing is going to change that. 🙂
Sidious is the same guy with everything to lose and is kind of cowardly so completely in character. Yoda failed to best him on equal ground or in the senate pod chamber room. Ironically Sidious briefly ko'd him on equal ground. That's a fact. Yoda fell off the pod not Sidious. That's another fact.
Yeah. We already now that you just here to ignore context and troll, Quanchi. Go on. See who cares.
Dooku has never done so and he's used his force powers in an effort to kill the opposition so it isn't an option since you're literally just applying the powers in any way your biased mind can think of without one example to back it up. I've backed up why he can't with in film examples of him attacking to kill without ever doing so. You saying I think he can isn't a legitimate point.
Because those powers can be used in any way if it is just another the same power being used in the same way but just against other targets. If Dooku can crush metal columns with the Force, using the same power in the same way against a human skull would result in a pretty ugly disfigured (in fact outright destroyed) skull. That he never does that in the movies doesn't mean he can't do it. And if you really want to make that stance your debating standard, you better refrain from debating.
The Jedi were gunned down by the clones. Their entire order save a small group were eradicated. Hell, the droids were hammering the group led by Windu and they were hapless droids even jar jar and his pathetic species destroyed many of them. We see Jango Fett gun down a Jedi as well. You dismissing all these deaths is kind of pathetic.
Still the backstabbing action of soldiers they completely trusted. And performed by far larger numbers of opponents against single targets. One on one? Nope. And yes. Jango gunned down a Jedi who made the mistake to focus on the Sith Lord (Dooku) in front of him, rather than the bounty hunter. I wonder how that happens in a 1 vs 1.
Jango defended against the force and disarmed a Jedi without the force. He used a weapon. Kenobi dropped that shit. That's how debating works I cite examples to disprove your nonsense. Cad Bane beat Kenobi in hand to hand without the force either just his skills. The force is just another tool for characters just as Jango's gear is his toolbox. Skills vary in both.
Jango "disarmed" a Jedi with a rocket to the Jedi's face and despite of his technical gimmicks, his advanced firepower and backup from a freaking starship, he had to run from that Jedi at the end.
Cad Bane? Even better. He attacks two Jedi, gets force pushed, loses both his guns in seconds, manages to get a lightsaber, loses that one in seconds and finally has to resort to a electro stunner to get Kenobi (who wasn't expecting that move). And after wasting his entire arsenal (including two blasters, a jetpack, the "taser", rockets, a flamethrower, bolas and a support droid) on his opponents, he also had to run.
You need far superior numbers or far superior firepower to take Jedi down. A single opponents clearly lacks the first and Khan also lacks the second as well.
Khan is more skilled based off his showing and has faster weapons and more powerful weapons that kill very effectively.
Aim is completely useless against people that know where you will fire your shots and can deflect them. The Boolean Gun is virtually the only thing Khan has that makes him a thread at all. But considering the movement speed force users can reach and the acrobatics they are capable of, I doubt he would hit one with it. And that's already assuming that noone decides to force pull it away from him.
More talk. All you do is chirp like a woman when it's obvious you're afraid to say I accept your challenge because you know you'll lose.
Sorry. It's still yourself rationalizing his inability to do any kind of SW vs ST battlezone right now. 😉
I casually dismissed some points but didn't want to bring my full case to bear in a challenge thread because this debate doesn't start until Beyond's clips are available to post.
We already know your pathetic excuses, Quan. If you don't have more to say, you can just shut up.