Originally posted by SurturThey weren't being sent back to prison because the judge "felt" the previous sentence wasn't harsh enough. It's because the mandatory minimum sentence for arson is five years, and the previous ruling let them off too easy, according to the law.
I just can't help wonder what would happen if a judge tried to send some black men back to prison to serve more time because he felt the previous sentence wasn't harsh enough.Can you imagine the media shitstorm? The first thing out of some peoples mouth would be "it must be racism". I guarantee you that within 24 hours they'd have a petition up online calling for the judge to resign..and most likely also a "Go Fund Me" page open.
You should actually know what the **** you are talking about before you speak.
I will mention that this situation probably can be- and should be- handled peacefully.
Unlike, say, Waco, there's no hostages. There's still time before others even need to use the facility.
It's sad that other situations aren't handled this calmly (unarmed BLM people in a mall got a riot squad recently...), but when there's room to handle something peacefully, it should be.
Originally posted by NemeBro
They weren't being sent back to prison because the judge "felt" the previous sentence wasn't harsh enough. It's because the mandatory minimum sentence for arson is five years, and the previous ruling let them off too easy, according to the law.You should actually know what the **** you are talking about before you speak.
Uh lady, I just got the information from the article posted. So please cease with your shit.
I mean hell it's one thing if this was some shit that didn't have an article posted and thus something you had to go search for..but Jesus H Christ it's not.
Plus no matter which way you spin it..someone f*cked up, royally. If the "mandatory" sentence was a specific amount of time why the hell were they released? The judge saw someone messed up and instead of saying "well gee we're some stupid motherf*ckers for this, this is on us" they try to throw people back in jail even though they were already released.
Not saying people shouldn't be in jail for arson, but once your time is served your time should be served and if a judge doesn't like it go talk to the dipshit who released them in the first place. You don't try to bring them in again unless they committed additional crimes. So again the judge saw their f*ck up and felt they hadn't been punished enough and wanted them back in jail. The "blah blah federal law" nonsense is the fault of whoever was stupid enough to release them.
If federal law was so important how the hell did these f*cks serve only a year,and one served only 3 months. That is a far cry from 5 years and when they were sentenced nobody noticed this? While they were in prison nobody noticed this? Holy shit no wonder our court system is so messed up.
Originally posted by Surtur
I mean hell it's one thing if this was some shit that didn't have an article posted and thus something you had to go search for..but Jesus H Christ it's not.Plus no matter which way you spin it..someone f*cked up, royally. If the "mandatory" sentence was a specific amount of time why the hell were they released? The judge saw someone messed up and instead of saying "well gee we're some stupid motherf*ckers for this, this is on us" they try to throw people back in jail even though they were already released.
Not saying people shouldn't be in jail for arson, but once your time is served your time should be served and if a judge doesn't like it go talk to the dipshit who released them in the first place. You don't try to bring them in again unless they committed additional crimes. So again the judge saw their f*ck up and felt they hadn't been punished enough and forced them back to jail. The "blah blah federal law" nonsense is the fault of whoever was stupid enough to release them.
So if a murderer or rapist got released accidentally, the authorities shouldn't be allowed to put him back in jail?
Originally posted by Surtur
I just can't help wonder what would happen if a judge tried to send some black men back to prison to serve more time because he felt the previous sentence wasn't harsh enough.Can you imagine the media shitstorm? The first thing out of some peoples mouth would be "it must be racism". I guarantee you that within 24 hours they'd have a petition up online calling for the judge to resign..and most likely also a "Go Fund Me" page open.
This is exactly what happened to these people. I wonder why this is being over looked.
Originally posted by Bardock42
So if a murderer or rapist got released accidentally, the authorities shouldn't be allowed to put him back in jail?
But this wasn't an accidental release. If it was they would of caught on as soon as the guy who served 3 months was out.
This was them being too stupid to sentence people properly. So uh, why would they go back to prison? Have we not let ruthless killers go scott free in the past because cops didn't follow proper procedures whilst arresting them? Or does shit like that just happen in the movies?
If they had been given the proper sentence of 5 years and then were accidentally released after a year that is entirely different then the courts just being too stupid to give them the proper sentence.
So I was mistaken. Earlier I said they set fire on federal land.
What actually happened was they set fire on their own land to burn bad vegetation and some of the fire went onto federal land. The land they paid the government to graze on.
And people wonder why this is so effing stupid.
Did you know the Feds own 53% of all land in Oregon?
We had someone in Chicago who was legitimately released accidentally. As in he was not given the wrong sentence he was given the correct one and was just accidentally released. You know how long it took them to realize this? A day or two.
These people? Takes a year, and a whopping 9 months after one was freed.