Plutonian vs Voidtry

Started by riv66724 pages

Wow, this is a tough one.
Scot and Id could be two sides of a coin here. Both adamant but respectful, both backing off the charts characters.
Compelling arguments, great citing of feats...
Split?
I doubt it but i had to put it out there.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
1) That's not "just a statement"... Tony Stark had to evaluate precisely the kind of threat the Sentry reprensent and he teamed-up with him during years.
It's actually more accurate than some poster on the internet downplaying the character to see his favorite winning.

2) Molecule Man wasn't weakened at all. Only Owen's mental inhibitions placed upon his powers limitates Owen's access to his powers. He had no mental inhibitions during Dark Avengers and therefore was at full power.

3) Raw power =/= skills. Sentry had enough skills to direct his reality warping powers against Molecule Man and destroys him. That's more than enough to waste the Plutonian.

4) Nothing in what you said is close to manipulate Molecule Man, nor being as powerful as HOM Scarlet Witch. By the way I've read all comics featuring the Plutonian. He is powerful but not even close to the Sentry.

If you feel that confident, than why don't you Battlezone me?

Originally posted by "Id"
What the phuck is Sentry creating Gizmo/gremlin going to do to Plutonian, when he can just as easily dismmember the little runt?
I'm not entirely convinced that Sentry created a 'real' micro-werewolf or w/e. I think it was meant to be a purely visual display that represented/mirrored his own inner turmoil--akin to a hologram, of sorts.

Imo, it is similar to when Franklin showed Galactus a visual representation of the future universe that would eventually come to be:

Again, I don't think that was an actual/tangible universe, but rather, a purely visual display of one--akin to a hologram. srug

But yeah, even IF the micro-werewolf was real, it obviously poses no threat to Tony, lol.

Originally posted by "Id"
If you feel that confident, than why don't you Battlezone me?

Because It's a total waste of time, especially when the burden of proof is in the comics.
I can see that you ran out of arguments and need the opinions of some random posters on this site to feel more comfortable.

Lol.

Sentry never defeated a full power molecule man, he defeated molecule man that limited his powers due to his mental illness. Let's not kid are selves, FO MM would have eaten sentry ass up, and FO mm would be evil molecule man Owen evil persona which almost caused the multiverse to collation it's self

Tony wins this especially if hes has full mastery of his powers, will ko sentry or straight out kill him

Originally posted by the Darkone
Sentry never defeated a full power molecule man, he defeated molecule man that limited his powers due to his mental illness. Let's not kid are selves, FO MM would have eaten sentry ass up, and FO mm would be evil molecule man Owen evil persona which almost caused the multiverse to collation it's self

Tony wins this especially if hes has full mastery of his powers, will ko sentry or straight out kill him

Wrong.

That's not Owen's mental stability that influence his powers but the mental inhibitions that he could put upon his powers.

Molecule Man WAS at full power against the Sentry.

On top of that the MM's evil persona was stated by Kubik to be far less powerful than the Owen whom faced the Sentry.

^^^Okay thats pretty confusing.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^Okay thats pretty confusing.

What is confusing ?

Why are we only going off of Sentry's highest highs?? On average he can't beat Tony.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Why are we only going off of Sentry's highest highs?? On average he can't beat Tony.

Yet Sentry at his best can beat Tony at his best.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yet Sentry at his best can beat Tony at his best.

Sentry at his worst forced an enraged Green Skaar to revert in human form while refusing to fight him and letting him punch his face.

Sentry at his worst couldn't lift a helicarrier, WWH Sentry was pretty high end for him pre-Dark Reign.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Sentry at his worst couldn't lift a helicarrier, WWH Sentry was pretty high end for him pre-Dark Reign.

I always read the usual lowballing...

He was trying to land it without damaging it.

That requires more being tactful than strong...

WWH was Sentry at the lowest after 29 hours struggling with his agoraphobia.

You don't know the context at all.

Wouldn't this be Sentry at his worst?

'Agh!!'

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wouldn't this be Sentry at his worst?

'Agh!!'

Even you are on my ignore list I will answer to this :

This device was designed by Jonas Harrow to depower mutates AKA humans enhanced via an outside source like the bite of a radioactive spider for spider-man, chemically enhanced humans like Captain America...

However if at first Sentry became a new form of life thanks to the Super-Soldier Serum, he don't believe himself as an enhanced human anymore and as his main power is to warp the reality, he's not in that category anymore.

He don't even need his body to live so it's not gonna happen twice.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Even you are on my ignore list I will answer to this :

This device was designed by Jonas Harrow to depower mutates AKA humans enhanced via an outside source like the bite of a radioactive spider for spider-man, chemically enhanced humans like Captain America...

However if at first Sentry became a new form of life thanks to the Super-Soldier Serum, he don't believe himself as an enhanced human anymore and as his main power is to warp the reality, he's not in that category anymore.

He don't even need his body to live so it's not gonna happen twice.

Damn, I'm on your ignore list too? What did I ever do to you?? 🙁

And how does it take away from my point? That it's Sentry at his lowest?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Damn, I'm on your ignore list too? What did [b]I ever do to you?? 🙁

And how does it take away from my point? That it's Sentry at his lowest? [/B]

Your usual trolling on the thread isn't really engaging.

Nope. That's Sentry depowered by an outside source and as it is a genetic disruptor, taken from Tony Stark's arsenal and used by Jonas Harrow, and that Sentry realised that he don't need his body to live, affecting his genetic material will not depower him again.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Your usual trolling on the thread isn't really engaging.

Nope. That's Sentry depowered by an outside source and as it is a genetic disruptor, taken from Tony Stark's arsenal and used by Jonas Harrow, and that Sentry realised that he don't need his body to live, affecting his genetic material will not depower him again.

Again, when have I ever engaged in discussions with you?

I mean, unless you had a different account and we chatted then? That might make sense.

I know full well what it is. And please, reread my post. I never said Plutonian was somehow, suddenly going to whip it up. Nor did I ask for a wiki about it.

My point, reiterated here, was that THAT was Sentry at his weakest.

If you can't even comprehend my posts, how are people meant to trust your comprehension of comics, ESPECIALLY one as complex and interesting as Sentry's?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Again, when have I ever engaged in discussions with you?

I mean, unless you had a different account and we chatted then? That might make sense.

I know full well what it is. And please, reread my post. I never said Plutonian was somehow, suddenly going to whip it up. Nor did I ask for a wiki about it.

My point, reiterated here, was that THAT was Sentry at his weakest.

If you can't even comprehend my posts, how are people meant to trust your comprehension of comics, ESPECIALLY one as complex and interesting as Sentry's?

Fine, bub.

I never said that you said that Plutonian was able to cut Sentry from his powers. I just asked to you the relevancy of that in this very thread and as far as I know the characters are supposed to act at their best, so even low showings from Sentry which comes from his mental instability should be ignored...

I totally understood your point as well as his irrelevancy to this thread.

For your last sentence : Nice try, bub. 0/10. I guess that you are bad at fishing because the way that you prepare your baits are too obvious.