Plutonian vs Voidtry

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Fine, bub.

I never said that you said that Plutonian was able to cut Sentry from his powers. I just asked to you the relevancy of that in this very thread and as far as I know the characters are supposed to act at their best, so even low showings from Sentry which comes from his mental instability should be ignored...

I totally understood your point as well as his irrelevancy to this thread.

For your last sentence : Nice try, bub. 0/10. I guess that you are bad at fishing because the way that you prepare your baits are too obvious.

You asked me? Where? I can't see your question.

I'm terrible at fishing, btw. But great pun and sentence structure!

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I always read the usual lowballing...

He was trying to land it without damaging it.

That requires more being tactful than strong...

WWH was Sentry at the lowest after 29 hours struggling with his agoraphobia.

You don't know the context at all.

What? He tried to catch it, and couldn't, I'm not low balling, I'm not sure what you want me to do about it.

In WWH, the entire point of all that build up was that Sentry let go of everything and completely cut loose, so I have no idea what you're talking about there either.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
What? He tried to catch it, and couldn't, I'm not low balling, I'm not sure what you want me to do about it.

In WWH, the entire point of all that build up was that Sentry let go of everything and completely cut loose, so I have no idea what you're talking about there either.

What he's trying to say with that point is that in the arc he was struggling with the Agoraphobia, which in part weakens him. As we saw in the arc he would refuse to go out. Ignore the cries of Sue and appeals from the President. He was just in his house the whole time.

So as it comes to the point where Hulk puts his thumb down Sentry realizes that he has no choice. He has to either refuse to leave and let them die. Or try and stop the Hulk. And given that he was really unstable at the time he couldn't control his power properly and he ended up losing control. Letting all of his energy fly in all different directions without any holds barred. Sentry wasn't holding back. But it wasn't under his own control and neither was he at full capacity in terms of power.

Pak says this here, (again referencing the losing control)

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
What? He tried to catch it, and couldn't, I'm not low balling, I'm not sure what you want me to do about it.

In WWH, the entire point of all that build up was that Sentry let go of everything and completely cut loose, so I have no idea what you're talking about there either.

Sentry only have the ability to fully exploit his powers if he is mentally stable.

The agoraphobia actually limitate his access to his powers and his control over them.

In World War Hulk, Sentry faced the worst agoraphobia of his life, during 29 hours, and he had to leave his home only because he had no other choices as Hulk was thumbs down in the Arena, meaning that Reed & Co where about to be executed.

So Sentry fought Hulk unwillingly while struggling with his agoraphobia and loosing control of his powers.

He cut loose yes, but he was at his weakest and Hulk was argably at his strongest during this fight as he was mad and enraged since he left Sakaar.

Even then, he and the Hulk reverted back to their human forms.

That's not a good showing for Hulk and that's a very low showing for the Sentry when you know that he is capable to erase the Molecule Man with a though, that gives a good idea of is abilities when is far more stable.

Against Photon, Sentry was able to destroy entire planets while holding back.

Against Green Skaar in an enraged state, Sentry barely destroyed a few city blocks while loosing control of his powers.

Do you get the difference ?

Shrugging off MANY blows that were draining and killing entire Star Systems throughout the universe, is a greater feat than destroying planets while holding back.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Sentry only have the ability to fully exploit his powers if he is mentally stable.

The agoraphobia actually limitate his access to his powers and his control over them.

In World War Hulk, Sentry faced the worst agoraphobia of his life, during 29 hours, and he had to leave his home only because he had no other choices as Hulk was thumbs down in the Arena, meaning that Reed & Co where about to be executed.

So Sentry fought Hulk unwillingly while struggling with his agoraphobia and loosing control of his powers.

He cut loose yes, but he was at his weakest and Hulk was argably at his strongest during this fight as he was mad and enraged since he left Sakaar.

Even then, he and the Hulk reverted back to their human forms.

That's not a good showing for Hulk and that's a very low showing for the Sentry when you know that he is capable to erase the Molecule Man with a though, that gives a good idea of is abilities when is far more stable.

Against Photon, Sentry was able to destroy entire planets while holding back.

Against Green Skaar in an enraged state, Sentry barely destroyed a few city blocks while loosing control of his powers.

Do you get the difference ?

And collateral damage is not the way to gauge power.

The writer never mentioned or even alluded that Sentry was weakened. Quite the opposite in fact.

But don't let that oppose you to warp reality and think he was weakened.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
What he's trying to say with that point is that in the arc he was struggling with the Agoraphobia, which in part weakens him. As we saw in the arc he would refuse to go out. Ignore the cries of Sue and appeals from the President. He was just in his house the whole time.

So as it comes to the point where Hulk puts his thumb down Sentry realizes that he has no choice. He has to either refuse to leave and let them die. Or try and stop the Hulk. And given that he was really unstable at the time he couldn't control his power properly and he ended up losing control. Letting all of his energy fly in all different directions without any holds barred. Sentry wasn't holding back. But it wasn't under his own control and neither was he at full capacity in terms of power.

Pak says this here, (again referencing the losing control)

Nowhere was it even alluded. Full stop.

Two posts from abhi in that thread. Wow !

Too bad I'm ignoring him. 🙂

Originally posted by Horrificus
Shrugging off MANY blows that were draining and killing entire Star Systems throughout the universe, is a greater feat than destroying planets while holding back.

Modeus was draining the energy from distant stars and ass-kicking the Plutonian whom was lying on the ground.

A Star system died because the energy of his star was depleted.

So far not only that's ridiculously a lower feat than destroying entire planet while holding back BUT that's even more dwarfed by the Sentry ignoring Molecule Man's powers as his own raw psionic power made him too strong to be affected by Owen.

The "Civil War Battle Damage Report" is the work of Tony Stark after the end of the Civil War to evaluate the damages for the President of the USA and this time Iron Man said that Sentry has :

"The potential for Unlimited Psionic Ability"

For the record, the Beyonder was stated in the Marvel Handbook Master Edition #35 to have a :

"Virtually unlimited psionic power"

So Sentry has always been in the tier of the Cosmic Cube-beings and the ease with he got rid of the Molecule Man allows us to believe that he is clearly the more powerful of them.

To summarize :

Sentry has always been superior to the Molecule Man and other Cosmic Cube-beings; and believing that Owen was weakened is complete bullshit when everything points out that nothing was limiting his powers and therefore that he was at full power

You're ignoring me?

OMG, didn't that just break my little heart!!!!