WBHulk vs. Barry Allen.

Originally posted by Magnon
*Approaching* lightspeed.

Below infinity, but large enough to take his opponent out. I don't know how much White Martian can take before dropping out but apparently Flash does.

You can use the equation I linked earlier. Substitute the "rest mass" in m0 and speed in place of v, and you can calculate the relativistic mass m.

Close to Infinity? Why did the White Martian live after said punch.? Let's use real world logic here? Also, Zoom lived after said punch as well. It was a straight on hit and he was ok afterwards. With his durability, he should have exploded from said hit, using real world logic.

Originally posted by carver9
What the mass Flash punch at when reaching light speed?

Don't know where in the phuck this "Flash hit him with infinity!!11!!!111!" BS is coming from..? srsly

Originally posted by carver9
Close to Infinity?

That's like saying: "I almost counted to infinity!!11!!!111!" srsly

Originally posted by Galan007
Enough to hit Zum with enough force to reach escape velocity. That's all that was stated in the comic.

Don't know where in the phuck this "Flash hit him with infinity!!11!!!111!" BS is coming from..? srsly

Do you think that same punch would take out Superman, Thor, and Surfer?

Originally posted by Galan007
Enough to hit Zum with enough force to reach escape velocity. That's all that was stated in the comic.

Don't know where in the phuck this "Flash hit him with infinity!!11!!!111!" BS is coming from..? srsly

You realize this is an oxymoron, correct?

That's like saying: "I almost counted to infinity!!11!!!111!" srsly

I'm just asking.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Isn't it funny how things that hurt your argument are PIS, hyperbole or approximations. yet if it helps your argument it's 100% fact.

My argument had flaws indeed. So I'll give a more sound argument below.

Basically, if Zoom hit WW at exactly light speed then one of two things occurred:

1. The writer ignored relativity and the punch hurt merely due to its speed. There was no mass increase whatsoever. So we can only calculate the kinetic energy WW got hit by from a fixed mass and a fixed speed. This is still an phenomenal durability feat for WW.

Or

2. The writer intended mass increase (IMP). This implies that the speed wasn't exactly the speed of light (very close though) since that would make the mass infinite. And WW tanking infinite force is impossible since she doesn't have infinite durability.

I believe 1. Is closer to the truth.

But if you or anyone disagree then I'm all ears to what other possibilities could have occurred in the zoom WW showing.

Originally posted by carver9
Close to Infinity? Why did the White Martian live after said punch.? Let's use real world logic here? Also, Zoom lived after said punch as well. It was a straight on hit and he was ok afterwards. With his durability, he should have exploded from said hit, using real world logic.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's not how zoom's powers work. He basically controls time (his own time). To his time frame he's hitting someone with a 30mph punch. To their time frame he's hitting them with a speed close to light speed.

It was said on panel that he was hit at Light speed. Let's not ignore everything that is said on paper. You're good at doing this when it goes against your argument but at least accept on panel proof sometimes.

Lol. That's exactly what WW said, though.

From HER pov, it was light speed (although, not sure how she's suddenly a radar gun). But he's not faster than her. He's a time controller.

Its all on panel. That's how Zoom works.

But its not Flash. Who's a different dude.

Flash dies here. He should just run away.

Originally posted by carver9
If you're hit by infinity, no matter how you're hit, you should be moving forever...especially farther than what he did when Flash hit him.

Not true.

Like I said you should read your own scans, because usually you end up with your foot on your mouth.

Originally posted by Magnon
*Approaching* lightspeed.

Below infinity, but large enough to take his opponent out. I don't know how much White Martian can take before dropping out but apparently Flash does.

You can use the equation I linked earlier. Substitute the "rest mass" in m0 and speed in place of v, and you can calculate the relativistic mass m.

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Even I whose english is not my first language understand the concept of APPROACHING

Originally posted by Galan007
Enough to hit Zum with enough force to reach escape velocity. That's all that was stated in the comic.

Don't know where in the phuck this "Flash hit him with infinity!!11!!!111!" BS is coming from..? srsly

You realize this is an oxymoron, correct?

That's like saying: "I almost counted to infinity!!11!!!111!" srsly

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👆 to this last page.

Carv, let it go. You just can't use Zoom to debate Barry, and Hulk can't beat him.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
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Even I whose english is not my first language understand the concept of APPROACHING

With that said, no proof that this punch would take out a top tier especially someone like World Breaker Hulk. Savage Hulk kills Flash while allowing him to pound away with his best punch. Flash just doesn't have the fts to hang with someone. Forum Flash, the made up version can beat God but comic Hulk fist would do nothing but tickle Hulk...kinda like it did to Konvikt.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What's the heaviest punch WBH ever tanked?

Before going World Breaker Hulk he tanked punches and blast from physical elites. I see no reason Barry punches wouldn't just bounce off of his body.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
World Breaker Betty punch.

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Was it higher than what Barry is able to produce?

Originally posted by carver9
Before going World Breaker Hulk he tanked punches and blast from physical elites. I see no reason Barry punches wouldn't just bounce off of his body.

Like wet tissue hitting brick wall.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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Was it higher than what Barry is able to produce?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The world exploded.

Fluff world 😈

But here is the thing.

1. The faster Barry runs, the more mass he packs into his punch.

2. The limit of his mass, therefore, is his speed.

So the question then is, what is Barry's speed limit?

Arguing what has come before, is kinda useless, as OP has specified:

'who can use all of his powers to do the things that his matchless speed allows him to do'.

Obv, this goes both ways - the Hulk's durability/strength is proportional to his rage, and there is no limit to that. However, he HAS been KOed before, when he wasn't able to keep pace.