Ultimates vs Squadron Supreme

Started by carver97 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
It wasn't 616 hyperion.

Feats for those two hyperions?

One of them was plucked straight from 616.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
And after where he proceeded to murder her.

Btw that Namora killed every last hero on her earth like King Hyperion.

And she matched evenly with 616 Namor in their fight. Her earth must have not been impressive as 616 namor could not replicate that feat On 616 earth.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor was beating the shit out of him.

He never "held" himself against The three of them.
Which shows how weaksauce alternate reality characters are.

She was equal to 616 Namor when they fought.

That's solidly below the likes of Thor and any Herald.


You still don't get it.

If you want to dwell only on lows be my guest.

To be honest that's a pretty high "low" that you presented in the first place. You know, being taken by surprise by a character who is significantly stronger in water and who has killed every hero on her earth. Not too shabby for a "low" considering the big 3 have horrifically low "lows".

I bet you still won't get it.

Originally posted by carver9
One of them was plucked straight from 616.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was hyperions from earth 712 and 5764

I'm at work so can't check

Iirc, one was from 712 and the other from 616.

Earth 712 Hyperion went to 616 but wasn't from 616

Originally posted by -K-M-
And she matched evenly with 616 Namor in their fight. Her earth must have not been impressive as 616 namor could not replicate that feat On 616 earth.

Why do you guys keep placing "if so, then" scenarios? That alt Namora killing every hero on her planet doesn't mean the heroes on her planet are made of fluff. All I'm doing is considering everything so as to not hand wave any pertinent information that serves to add to the overall presentation of a character.

They are trying to find every root cause to downplay Hyperion AND BM at the same time

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Why do you guys keep placing "if so, then" scenarios? That alt Namora killing every hero on her planet doesn't mean the heroes on her planet are made of fluff. All I'm doing is considering everything so as to not hand wave any pertinent information that serves to add to the overall presentation of a character.

I'm confident to say they are, especially since she only matched evenly with 616 namor. Have any proof to say otherwise?

Originally posted by carver9
They are trying to find every root cause to downplay Hyperion AND BM at the same time

Not at all. Fact is Namora who killed everyone on her earth ONLY matched evenly with 616 namor. That's a direct comparison against an established character that has legit feats rather then alternate reality characters she killed off panel

Originally posted by -K-M-
Not at all. Fact is Namora who killed everyone on her earth ONLY matched evenly with 616 namor. That's a direct comparison against an established character that has legit feats rather then alternate reality characters she killed off panel

They fought evenly under water. That's a sick ft for her if you ask me.

Originally posted by carver9
They fought evenly under water. That's a sick ft for her if you ask me.

Yes when both are at their peak and was still even. Good feat,'but not great for the statement she killed all the heroes and villains on her earth when she matched evenly with 616 namor

Originally posted by carver9
They are trying to find every root cause to downplay Hyperion AND BM at the same time

Captain Obvious agrees. They are still trying to protect the franchise.

IOW, according to carver:

Alt Namora killed everyone on her planet - including alt. Namor.

Alt Namora, however, was unable to kill 616 Namor.

But 616 Namor is = alt Namor = alt Namora!!

616 Namor is capable of killing everyone on 616 Earth. Carver canon.

Originally posted by carver9
Letting him wail? Overpower? Juggernaut took a beating and wouldn't stop coming just like he did against the Avengers.

Lol...it was said by a person who's met 616 Hulk and Thor.

Abby is about to claim he didn't see Juggs lumped up face.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yes when both are at their peak and was still even. Good feat,'but not great for the statement she killed all the heroes and villains on her earth when she matched evenly with 616 namor

Evenly matched with Namor UNDER WATER.

Umm.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
IOW, according to carver:

Alt Namora killed everyone on her planet - including alt. Namor.

Alt Namora, however, was unable to kill 616 Namor.

But 616 Namor is = alt Namor = alt Namora!!

616 Namor is capable of killing everyone on 616 Earth. Carver canon.

Killed and overpowered are not interchangeable terms.

Anyway, there is now way on earth we would even be talking about Namora were it not for Abby. He acts like Hyperion wasn't "weakened." Guess that strategy is reserved for Supermam.

Originally posted by carver9
Evenly matched with Namor UNDER WATER.

And?

Closed. A few of you may very well be banned soon.