ESB Luke vs. Kylo Ren

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Rebel95 Senior Member

ESB Luke vs. Kylo Ren

Same location as the duel in ESB

Sabers
Force
All out

EmperorSidious2 Master of Magic

Luke will take sabers

Kylo force

Luke All out

quanchi112 Disney

Kylo wins all.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Kylo imo.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Losing to Rey shows Kylo definitely isn't ready.

TheNuisanceBird Wrecker - Scientist Class
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Losing to Rey shows Kylo definitely isn't ready.

Kylo was hindered during the fight. He was emotional unstable and had been shot by a weapon thats sent others flying back. Finn had somewhat softened him up as he landed some hits as he apparently was proficient in melee combat as a Stormtrooper. I think in a book it states he was adapt at using melee weapons. Also, Rey needed a Force amp and Kylo wasn't trying to kill her during the fight.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Doesn't change what I said in the slightest.

Tzeentch #gottem

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Losing to Rey shows Kylo definitely isn't ready.
How does it show that?

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Well, as described in the novel, Kylo isn't used to actually fighting Force Users, especially of Rey's caliber, which ESB Luke is. Kylo can obviously take a few rounds, but I see Luke taking the majority. Not to mention Snoke obviously thinking she is the more powerful.

ares834 Senior Member

When did Snoke think that?

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
which ESB Luke is.

Um?

Beniboybling Worst Member

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Losing to Rey shows Kylo definitely isn't ready.
Luke wasn't ready either...

Tzeentch #gottem

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Well, as described in the novel, Kylo isn't used to actually fighting Force Users, especially of Rey's caliber, which ESB Luke is. Kylo can obviously take a few rounds, but I see Luke taking the majority. Not to mention Snoke obviously thinking she is the more powerful.
What force users has Luke fought pre-Vader?

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

None. The same number Rey fought before Ren.

Originally posted by ares834
When did Snoke think that?

Snoke told Rey to kill Kylo, going by the script. Why would he do that if Ren was stronger?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Luke wasn't ready either...
Fs really isn't used to debating or facing the fact his own point just blew up in his face. Poor guy.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Luke wasn't ready either...

To face Vader. Kylo isn't comparable to Vader in any way.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Snoke told Rey to kill Kylo, going by the script. Why would he do that if Ren was stronger?

Because she has greater potential? 😬

ares834 Senior Member
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Snoke told Rey to kill Kylo, going by the script. Why would he do that if Ren was stronger?

Got a link to the script? People said the same thing of the novel, but it’s straight up said to be the dark side “talking” to her.

Tzeentch #gottem

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
None. The same number Rey fought before Ren.
In which case his experience against force users would be the exactly the same as Ren's?

I dunno if you're trolling or drunk.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

How it's that relevant when Kylo is stated to be at a disadvantage and Luke wasn't? Not to mention Luke's potential far outstripping Kylo's, this isn't exactly a case of similar comparisons. Anakin didn't face any Force Users before Dooku and Obi-Wan did, but it's pretty obvious who actually did better in that situation.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Because she has greater potential? 😬

Which is what I was taking about not actual realized power.