#Oscar's so White

Originally posted by Mindset
Have you heard of the actor Michael B Jordan?

He got shafted.

No silly that was Samuel L Jackson, he was the modern Shaft. They don't ALL look alike.

Originally posted by BackFire
I was surprised that Idris Elba wasn't nominated for supporting actor for Beasts of No Nation, he was incredible in that, one of the better and more nuanced villain roles I've seen.

I wasn't.

Yeah, he certainly deserved it but almost nobody saw the film and those who did were probably turned off voting for him due to how unsettling the character is. Shame.

Idris Elba should've been nominated.

Did it get a theatrical release?

It did. And I suppose Ares is right, evil monstrous characters generally don't get a lot of love at the Oscars.

Maybe they used up their quota with Forest Whitaker...

Heath Ledger too, but he died that year so that might have skewed things.

Anyone seen this?

YouTube video

Damn, I hope Smith has some aloe vera for that burn.

I'm actually bored to tears with this nonsense argument. Does any complaining about it genuinely think any of the performances from black actors this year are better than the nominated people? If so then argue the case based on the performance. If not then sit down and shut the **** up. I mean Jada Pinkett Smith is boycotting the Oscars? So what. It's not like she'll ever get nominated. She's ****ing crap and so is her idiot son. Did she also forget that her own husband has been nominated twice and both times lost out...to other black actors namely Denzel Washington for Training Day and Forrest Whitaker for Last King of Scotland. Is she a total moron? Time ***** like her got the massive chips on their shoulders seen to.

no one takes the, Oscars serious, especially, fans...,so why bother trying to make anything of the nominees? No one cares. Even the people that do care really don't care.

Sorry but no, even a nomination opens huge doors for actors; both in movie choice and earning potentials.

That is just an even bigger reason to not make race a factor.

Originally posted by Surtur
That is just an even bigger reason to not make race a factor.

The claim is that the Academy has already made race a factor. i.e. white people are advantaged.

But there's no equitable way of ensuring that black actors/filmmakers will always receive recognition.

Originally posted by Bardock42
The claim is that the Academy has already made race a factor. i.e. white people are advantaged.

Okay, it's super easy to claim race is a factor if you don't get nominated though. Some people can't accept their performance just wasn't up to par. Others seem to think if you're black and in some movie with an important issue(like slavery) you should just be automatically nominated because..well, because because because because because.

Hard to prove it one way or the other besides going "look at all the white folk winning and being nominated".

So have the nominations for each category been announced yet? I do think that Idris Elba and Michael B Jordan should've been recognized for their performances this year but it really doesn't matter much as the Oscar's aren't really something I'm actively paying attention to.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay, it's super easy to claim race is a factor if you don't get nominated though. Some people can't accept their performance just wasn't up to par. Others seem to think if you're black and in some movie with an important issue(like slavery) you should just be automatically nominated because..well, because because because because because.

Hard to prove it one way or the other besides going "look at all the white folk winning and being nominated".

Yes, people can lie about being racist. But like for example we do know that the voters are 94% white...which seems kinda weird, unless only 6% of people in the industry are minorities. And if that's the case maybe there's a problem there (which there is as well).

Originally posted by Omega Vision
But there's no equitable way of ensuring that black actors/filmmakers will always receive recognition.

Well, yes, but talking about this very odd issue that apparently white people are just always better actors every year, might convince some of the voters to examine their biases, whether conscious or unconscious.

Except they aren't. People of color get nominations (and wins) from time to time.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, people can lie about being racist. But like for example we do know that the voters are 94% white...which seems kinda weird, unless only 6% of people in the industry are minorities. And if that's the case maybe there's a problem there (which there is as well).

If 94% are white and a majority of those were racist then wouldn't we never ever see anyone who isn't white even nominated? Let alone achieving victory.