Commander Sheppard vs Any FPS character

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
They both use Eezo fluid in a mass effect field

So? Assault rifles and 30mm aircraft cannons both use gunpowder, but one is clearly more powerful.

If you read the in game info it says a big enough mass effect field can make a paint chip hit like a nuke. But the ones on regular guns make them hit like regular guns because you need a big enough ship like a dreadnought to get power like that. Get out of here with that false stuff.

Hell, the example you used with Isaac Newton being the deadliest son of a b*tch on space was specifically talking about starship weaponry.

Thats a non comparison unless you can prove a mass effect field is weaker by size. Both use the exact same "engine" as the mass effect satalites which launch ships at massively ftl speed. Hell the opposite is shown as the normany has a mass effect drive that operates the same as the massive satalite's and the tiny one in ME1

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Thats a non comparison unless you can prove a mass effect field is weaker by size. Both use the exact same "engine" as the mass effect satalites which launch ships at massively ftl speed. Hell the opposite is shown as the normany has a mass effect drive that operates the same as the massive satalite's and the tiny one in ME1

As I said, if you'd read the in game info, this wouldn't be a conversation.

Quote from the "Mass Accelerator" entry - "If accelerated to a high enough velocity, a simple paint chip can impact with the same destructive force as a nuclear weapon. However, mass accelerators produce recoil equal to their impact energy. This is mitigated somewhat by the mass effect fields that rounds are suspended within, but weapon recoil is still the prime limiting factor on slug velocity. "

This is plainly stated and means that the higher the impact, the bigger the recoil. So it's simply impossible for personal weapons like pistols and rifles to do much more damage than normal pistols and rifles. Because to make impacts and shoot projectiles at speeds ships do, they'd need to be massive to handle the recoil.

Here's a quote from the "Weapons" entry - "In Mass Effect, to generate ammunition a weapon shaves a projectile the size of a sand grain from a dense block of metal contained within the weapon's body. The projectile is launched at supersonic velocities by decreasing its mass in a mass effect field."

So basically within the same realm as modern day ammunition.

And since this is Soldier Shepard, it's canon he has no defense against Biotics(the Spectre from the Shadow Broker DLC is one example), which means he'd have no defense against the Force either. He gets Force choked out by Jaden.

He has an armor Vi right off the bat, and the homing concussive shot.

Also "mitigated"

Also Me2 increased the power of the weapons, thats why the need heat sinks (reload mechanic) its why the ME1 gun in ME3 is so weak.

Are you dense?

An armor VI won't help him whatsoever. The concussive shot is slow as balls in comparison to normal bullets, a powerful force user like Korr could either dodge it, redirect it, or just block it.

So you're just picking and choosing what you read? It said somewhat mitigated. But you can't ignore where it says right there, "they produce recoil = to their impact energy". So if you fire something with the force of a nuke, or at extremely higher than standard speeds, you need a massive ship like a dreadnought or a reaper. It's not possible within the universe's physics to shoot a gun and expect it to hit like a starship. Stop being dumb about this.

The heatsinks are not to increase power. The Geth used them so their weapons wouldn't overheat, and the rest of the galaxy followed suit since it was a b*tch to sit there for 15 seconds while your gun was cooling down.

I get that you want Shepard to win, but you shouldn't have allowed any FPS character. There's tons that beat him. A few of them have been listed already.

Have you played the game? There is a shoulder fired nuke...

http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/6397/how-are-weapons-in-mass-effect-powered

That explains the science

M-920 Cain

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/M-920_Cain

Also FPS not partial, not top down, not segments of.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Have you played the game? There is a shoulder fired nuke...

I've beaten all 3 Mass Effects, and all the DLC multiple times. I know about the Cain. Did you give him the Cain for this fight? Also, the Cain is not a nuke. It just shoots a big explosive that makes a small mushroom cloud when it detonates. The Fat Boy from Fallout would be a shoulder fired nuke.

Should I mention what all Jaden can do again?

Core Powers -

Force Speed - His max is 500% faster than normal. Shepard has no in game or custcene evidence to prove he can move that fast. If he could, he'd be dodging bullets with ease as everyone was frozen still.

Force Jump - He can jump up to 8x higher/further than a normal person. He can literally get to Shepard in a single leap, moving so fast he wouldn't be able to react.

Force Push/Pull - He can toss Shepard around like a ragdoll and Shepard has no defense against TK.

Light Side Powers -

Force Protection - A force field made of force energy that maxed out can block 90% of damage.

Force Heal - If he so happens to be damaged, he can heal himself in combat. Making it doubly impossible for Shepard to beat him.

Dark Powers -

Force Drain - He just drains your life force, killing you and healing himself in the process. Again, no defense for Shepard against this.

Force Lightning - We know what this does, and Shepard has no defense against lightning. (Shadow Broker DLC)

Force Grip - He picks Shepard up by the throat with the Force, and tosses him around while crushing his neck. No defense against it for non force users.

Oh, and he's got tons of weapons. Aside from the lightsaber which can cut through Shepard's armor like a literal hot knife through butter, he's got a disintegration rifle, explosives, etc...

There is absolutely no way a maxed out soldier Shepard wins against a maxed out Jaden Korr.

Is it a fps? At all times?

Not at all times, but it starts the game as one and you spend a good deal of time strictly FPS before you get your lightsaber. If you want to ban him because he beats Shepard, that's fine. I can think of more who will also beat Shepard.

If it violates the Op he cant be uses, no matter how you want to phrase it

I always wondered Shepard or the chief

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
If it violates the Op he cant be uses, no matter how you want to phrase it

Well the game is FPS so I guess he doesn't.

Sam Gideon and Raiden.

Using the op's logic of what makes an fps. 😈

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
If it violates the Op he cant be uses, no matter how you want to phrase it

The Op clearly meant "shooter". Unless you think he meant to match a tps against fps's only, which is weird..

Fps = First person shooter

Ie: First person perspective (not top down, not 3rd person, not First person some of the time but i want feats from the other times.)

Shooter (shoots for the vast majority of the main gameplay)

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
its canon, the weaponry uses Mass effect fields to rapidly accelerate shards of some space metal. There is even a scene in ME3 with a Sergent training his privates on the dangers of missing shots as the "round" can travel very very far. The ships can fire past multiple planetary lengths. "Sir issac Newton is the deadliest MFer in space"

I find that odd, considering that FTL is 186,282 miles per second.

How would you even see the weapons firing?

Originally posted by TheBadguy
I always wondered Shepard or the chief

Also 😂 at Henry Pym's meltdown, this thread backfired hard

Originally posted by cdtm
Sam Gideon and Raiden.

Using the op's logic of what makes an fps. 😈

Or Samus :zaru