At boxing range, Thor is unlikely to be given the opportunity to pull out his esoteric abilities.
Hulk is undeniably stronger by a good amount.
His durability is at least equal, and his damage soak as a whole is far better than Thor's.
His speed feats under Waid's were some things that guys like Wolverine would fail to accomplish, someone who is certainly faster in CQC than Thor. Honestly, his speed feats there are closer to things you'd expect from QS or Speed Demon.
Hulk's greater sheer explosive speed is also combined with his greater reach. So at boxing range he will always land first, and that's going to put Thor off his game for the rest of the fight, as he will struggle to make distance as Hulk won't give him room.
Hulk's physical stats will also grow throughout the fight, whereas Thor's will diminish. He'll be fighting off the backfoot the entire time. It won't be a stomp, but I can't see Thor pulling off a single win at that distance.
But regardless, this thread isn't at boxing range. I forgot what standard distance is, but I'm pretty sure its 1 kilometer, maybe half a kilometer. Point being, Thor will need distance (which gives him time) to win.
BFR is his best bet. Soul Drain isn't an instant thing, and especially since Hulk has shown some resistance to soul attacks in the past. Energy drain is also not instant, and may be offset by Hulk simply bullshitting his way through it.
Originally posted by CosmicCometBattle distance is half a kilometer. Hulk can simply Thunderclap and ko Thor with extreme ease.
At boxing range, Thor is unlikely to be given the opportunity to pull out his esoteric abilities.Hulk is undeniably stronger by a good amount.
His durability is at least equal, and his damage soak as a whole is far better than Thor's.
His speed feats under Waid's were some things that guys like Wolverine would fail to accomplish, someone who is certainly faster in CQC than Thor. Honestly, his speed feats there are closer to things you'd expect from QS or Speed Demon.
Hulk's greater sheer explosive speed is also combined with his greater reach. So at boxing range he will always land first, and that's going to put Thor off his game for the rest of the fight, as he will struggle to make distance as Hulk won't give him room.
Hulk's physical stats will also grow throughout the fight, whereas Thor's will diminish. He'll be fighting off the backfoot the entire time. It won't be a stomp, but I can't see Thor pulling off a single win at that distance.
But regardless, this thread isn't at boxing range. I forgot what standard distance is, but I'm pretty sure its 1 kilometer, maybe half a kilometer. Point being, Thor will need distance (which gives him time) to win.
BFR is his best bet. Soul Drain isn't an instant thing, and especially since Hulk has shown some resistance to soul attacks in the past. Energy drain is also not instant, and may be offset by Hulk simply bullshitting his way through it.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
At boxing range, Thor is unlikely to be given the opportunity to pull out his esoteric abilities.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Hulk is undeniably stronger by a good amount.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
His durability is at least equal, and his damage soak as a whole is far better than Thor's.
Originally posted by CosmicCometThor has speed feats Wolverine might have trouble replicating. Hulk is not beating Thor through speed. Period.
His speed feats under Waid's were some things that guys like Wolverine would fail to accomplish, someone who is certainly faster in CQC than Thor. Honestly, his speed feats there are closer to things you'd expect from QS or Speed Demon.
Originally posted by CosmicCometThis is CIS/PISless Thor. Most of what you're saying won't happen.
Hulk's greater sheer explosive speed is also combined with his greater reach. So at boxing range he will always land first, and that's going to put Thor off his game for the rest of the fight, as he will struggle to make distance as Hulk won't give him room.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Hulk's physical stats will also grow throughout the fight, whereas Thor's will diminish. He'll be fighting off the backfoot the entire time. It won't be a stomp, but I can't see Thor pulling off a single win at that distance.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
But regardless, this thread isn't at boxing range. I forgot what standard distance is, but I'm pretty sure its 1 kilometer, maybe half a kilometer. Point being, Thor will need distance (which gives him time) to win.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
BFR is his best bet. Soul Drain isn't an instant thing, and especially since Hulk has shown some resistance to soul attacks in the past. Energy drain is also not instant, and may be offset by Hulk simply bullshitting his way through it.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Stronger? Probably. By a good amount? Not really.Not far better.
Thor has speed feats Wolverine might have trouble replicating. Hulk is not beating Thor through speed. Period.
This is CIS/PISless Thor. Most of what you're saying won't happen.
Hulk would lose long before Thor's strength will diminish.
Correct. Hulk will lose.
Sure bfr is best bet. But he can beat Hulk in countless other ways that Hulk won't have an answer for.
you don't think the hulk from the end of heart of the monster is FAR stronger or has FAR more durability than thor? curious as to why. i'd say that final incarnation of hulk would dwarf thor in both areas.....what makes you think either would be close?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17you know that this Hulk is astronomically stronger than Thor right. His feat wasn't destroying a planet. His feat was supplying the strength of more than billions of times of destroying a planet. Not only can't Thor generate the force of billions of times more than destroying a planet with a punch but he can't generate a the force to destroy a planet with a single punch.
Stronger? Probably. By a good amount? Not really.Not far better.
Thor has speed feats Wolverine might have trouble replicating. Hulk is not beating Thor through speed. Period.
This is CIS/PISless Thor. Most of what you're saying won't happen.
Hulk would lose long before Thor's strength will diminish.
Correct. Hulk will lose.
Sure bfr is best bet. But he can beat Hulk in countless other ways that Hulk won't have an answer for.
Hulk can simply thunderclap and the fight is over.
I wonder if Thor clashed with another Thor fist to fist, if his power output would melt Armageddon (someone who defeat both Merge Hulk and Surfer at the same time), Bi Beast (someone who physically over powered him during their scuffle) and Wendigo (someone who has physically been able to compete with Savage Hulk). If someone can show me that the backlash of Thor power would melt beings like this...hell, if someone can prove that the Shockwaves from a clash of Thor's fist would melt Spiderman, I would applaud you.
Originally posted by carver9
I wonder if Thor clashed with another Thor fist to fist, if his power output would melt Armageddon (someone who defeat both Merge Hulk and Surfer at the same time), Bi Beast (someone who physically over powered him during their scuffle) and Wendigo (someone who has physically been able to compete with Savage Hulk). If someone can show me that the backlash of Thor power would melt beings like this...hell, if someone can prove that the Shockwaves from a clash of Thor's fist would melt Spiderman, I would applaud you.
Don't go overboard Carver.
But the notion of Hulk being just a little bit stronger is hilarious.
If Thor has a chance is because Mjolnir. I don't know how is that so difficult to understand.
If Thor was in all stats equal to Hulk adding mjolnir will make him ubber powerful compared to the other heroes. But he is not, take the mallet away and thor loses badly, he needs the mallet to compensate for the LACK of physical stats vs Hulk
Originally posted by leonidas
you don't think the hulk from the end of heart of the monster is FAR stronger or has FAR more durability than thor? curious as to why. i'd say that final incarnation of hulk would dwarf thor in both areas.....what makes you think either would be close?
Originally posted by carver9
I wonder if Thor clashed with another Thor fist to fist, if his power output would melt Armageddon (someone who defeat both Merge Hulk and Surfer at the same time), Bi Beast (someone who physically over powered him during their scuffle) and Wendigo (someone who has physically been able to compete with Savage Hulk). If someone can show me that the backlash of Thor power would melt beings like this...hell, if someone can prove that the Shockwaves from a clash of Thor's fist would melt Spiderman, I would applaud you.
What happened when Stormbreaker hit Mjolnir?