Berserker Vegeta Gauntlet

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Didn't even mention this; you're responding the the answer that you expected rather than the one that was given.

Also, there's no proof that Beerus was fighting at a higher level against Vegeta than he was against Goku--not until he one-shotted him, that is.

All of those things point to Vegeta being more powerful, and him probably using the same amount of power against Vegeta if not more until the Galick Gun. If he was even using 5 percent of his power against Vegeta and getting knocked around like that then that'd still put Vegeta way above Buuhan. And no one else could even touch let alone effect Beerus in any way when he was just casually standing there. Vegeta actually forced him to fight at that level.

Those things prove Vegeta was stronger than Goku, not Beerus.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Didn't even mention this; you're responding the the answer that you expected rather than the one that was given.

This is a very important fact to consider when you're claiming that it's absurd to put berserker Vegeta in Vegetto's tier.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Also, there's no proof that Beerus was fighting at a higher level against Vegeta than he was against Goku--not until he one-shotted him, that is.

Galan is pretty spot on

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm simply reiterating the level Beerus was operating at when he battled SSJ3 Goku, because that is the same level(at a minimum) he was initially operating at against berserker Vegeta

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Also, there's no proof that Beerus was fighting at a higher level against Vegeta than he was against Goku--

Why are we passing this for the 2nd time when neither of us have made any sort of contrary claim?

This is a very important fact to consider when you're claiming that it's absurd to put berserker Vegeta in Vegetto's tier.

That is not what I said. Adding words changes meaning, please stop doing so for dramatic effect.

Yes, it does seem a "bit too absurd" to me that becoming angry provides a bigger power boost than potara fusion. 😬

Bran already answered this, so I'll leave it alone.

Who?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Who?

One Big Mob. He used to have a different username.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Those things prove Vegeta was stronger than Goku, not Beerus.

Even if Vegeta was nowhere close to whatever level Beerus was using, he was still far and away more powerful than everyone else.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Why are we passing this for the 2nd time when neither of us have made any sort of contrary claim?

That is not what I said. Adding words changes meaning, please stop doing so for dramatic effect.

Yes, it does seem a "bit too absurd" to me that becoming angry provides a bigger power boost than potara fusion. 😬

Who?

You said that you think it's absurd to put berserker Vegeta in the same tier as Vegetto. I explained to you why it is not. It really is that simple.

...Not sure why you're playing the faux-victim card. /shrug

He's new at being a guy Galan. He hasn't grown accustomed to the testosterone and penistip.

Give him a break. He'll get used to it.

It is the penistip that binds us. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
You said that you think it's absurd to put berserker Vegeta in the same tier as Vegetto. I explained to you why it is not. It really is that simple.

...Not sure why you're playing the faux-victim card.

Sure, you explained why Vegeta being in Vegetto's tier isn't absurd, but I never said that it was in the first place.

You're exaggerating what I said to better fit your argument. It has nothing to do with victimization; rather, it's just poor argumentation on your part. And I'm pointing it out.

1) Super Buu - the only problem is his regen.

2) M. Gohan - dies. Sure, Vegeta has the time limit, as he can't stay berserk forever, but we've seen how "well" M. Gohan has performed against Beerus...

3) Buuhan - this is where things get interesting.

4) Vegitto - no. Just no.

Just wondering why you think beating Vegitto is out of the question?

Vegitto never really went all out against Buuhan. He was toying with him.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
You're exaggerating what I said to better fit your argument. It has nothing to do with victimization; rather, it's just poor argumentation on your part. And I'm pointing it out.

That fact that you are still playing victim is funny, though... As is your attempt at deflection. 🙂

I said that it's absurd for Vegeta to surpass Vegetto. You said it's absurd for Vegeta to be in Vegetto's tier. Yes, there is an obvious difference between those two statements; chief of which, that your argument only serves to disprove one of them. Which is why it is poor. Beyond that, if you have nothing to argue with other than pointless quips, then I have no desire or reason to speak with you further.

😂

You need to go back and reread the debate if you think that was EVER put into question by me.

You said it's "absurd" to rank Vegeta in a higher tier than Vegetto. I simply provided proof as to why Vegeta should be in the same tier as Vegetto at the very least--and based on that, an argument can certainly be made for him to be superior. Suffice to say, it's far from an "absurd" assertion.

If you're going to cry rape, at least be thorough with your accusations. 👆

You need to go back and reread the debate if you think that was EVER put into question by me.

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This is a very important fact to consider when you're claiming that it's absurd to put berserker Vegeta in Vegetto's tier.

Are you daft?

😂

Posted by you:
"You said it's absurd for Vegeta to be in Vegetto's tier."

I NEVER said that.

Ergo my response:
"You need to go back and reread the debate if you think that was EVER put into question by me."

Get it? 🙂

Vegeta punches Vegeto's heart out through his bellybutton.