Originally posted by DamborgsonIf we go by the mystic Gohan scale which I believe Toriyama stated is the new official ki
I just don't see it guys
4th Form Frieza was over 226 times stronger than him. Golden Frieza was at least twice as strong. And even Golden Frieza was weaker than Beerus, so let's say...
Golden Frieza = 90 percent Beerus
4th Form Frieza = 45 percent Frieza
At best, and at best makes it look better for everyone let's keep in mind that operated at Z levels.
So that would make 100 percent Beerus be 498 times Gohan.
Which means 10 percent Beerus was almost 50 times Gohan. 5 percent which we're assuming Beerus was operating at against the Z fighters would be almost 25 times Gohan level. Buuhan wasn't quite twice as powerful as Gohan, so Vegeto would have had to be 12.5 times more powerful than Buuhan to be comparable to the Beerus Vegeta was giving a good fight to. He might have been way more powerful, but 12.5 times is pretty large.
That's all rough estimates considering 1st Form Frieza was way above Gohan and that's assuming Golden Frieza was as high as 90 percent. In all likely hood you could double these amounts while still being modest.
Also I don't know how to math so I'm probably way off.
Not to mention Goku didn't think Vegeto could beat the Beerus Vegeta was able to give the temp buzznizz to as well. So again, it at the very least makes them comparable.
Toriyama certainly went out of his way to show us that base Freeza VASTLY surpassed ALL of the Z Fighters(barring Goku and Vegeta of course), and furthermore, was in the upper-echelon of ki they had EVER sensed(they were literally awestruck at his power.) This implies that he was already more powerful than any previous baddies, inc. the Boos... And then his 4th form would glean a ~226x boost above even that level of power.... And then his Golden form was no less than 2x his 4th form. Suffice to say: it's hard to even fathom such ridiculous power.
But anyway... According to Goku(whose word on gauging an opponent is pretty damned irrefutable), Beerus was already > Vegetto when they fought on King Kai's world. And given that Beerus was operating at no less than the same level against berserker Vegeta initially, Vegeta being on par with Vegetto is not only reasonable, it's perfectly logical.