Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He was able to rip up large sections of road instantly and pull them out of the ground without any effort. He basically has magneto like ability with metal.Force choke across space is impressive but how is that hurting Ultron? He is vibraium a substance that can pretty much stalemate a infinity gem, thors lightning and tri beams.
Vadar has never shown the ability to bend or hurt a metal like vibranium.
Infinity Stone and Thors Hammer are more power then any force Vadar call put together, and yet vibranium has withstood a direct charged strike from Thor when Cap blocked it and all of its other feats.
Ultron has many ways to kill vadar, but vadar has very little.
Ultron can fly, control metal, blast projection, extremely strong and durable, and pretty damn fast on his feet.
You bring up some good points about Ultron. Just to be clear my argument is not that Ultron cannot win but that is would not be a stomp.
My examples of Vader using force choke and TK while fighting shows that Vader can use the force during combat and attack using the force while mulit-tasking.
As for Vibranium, as far as I know we do not know that type of metal that is being used in the star wars universe and how it compares to vibranium. The force seems to have a no limit fallacy. At the end of ROTS Vader crush the metal surrounding him pretty easy in a fit of rage.
I am not taking away this as an advantage for Ultron, I feel this is his biggest advantage. Even if Vader is able to penetrate Vibranium with use of the force and his saber it most likely would take a while to do so.
Something of note, usually in the movies unless it is Jedi vs Sith when it comes to a force user fighting it is usually against multiple enemies at once. In this scenario you are talking about a one on one with the force user having no distractions but his opponent.
As for speed we know Vader is not slow. Luke nor Obi Wan was able to blitz him. Obi Wan was able to handle the general’s speed in ROTS with no issues.
Here is how I see the fight going:
Vader holds Ultron still with use of the force. Ultron however is still able to use his offensive attacks forcing Vader to eventually let go. While doging Vader will reverse some of Ultron attacks back onto him. Vader will try to crush Ultron using the force which will distract Ultron but not stop him from attacking offensively.
In the end Vader will see his only choice is to get close and use his saber and will try to use attacks to bring Ultron close him. Ultron will keep attacking from a distance. This will lead to Vader eventually getting caught with an offensive attack from Ultron that will led to Vader having to flee.