Originally posted by Kotor3
Yes you are right about Luke. The point is he was similar to Jango and taken out with ease. As for the video it shows what I stated, Obi Wan was not fighting just one person unless you are ignoring the kid firing at him which made him lose his saber.Also lets not forget Jedi don't aim to kill unlike Sith.
The kid (Bobba) fired on Obi wan like 2 times or so. Not exactly a 2 on 1 scenario.
Anyway point is, Ultron would have decimated Jango and his kid. Remember that Obi Wan defeated Anakin.
Originally posted by FrothByteI know you feel this is a good point but it isn't. Kid Bobba did enough to distract Obi Wan. While Jango hid and attacked. Obi Wan wasn't trying (as a Jedi) to kill Jango.
The kid (Bobba) fired on Obi wan like 2 times or so. Not exactly a 2 on 1 scenario.
Anyway point is, Ultron would have decimated Jango and his kid. Remember that Obi Wan defeated Anakin.
Obi Wan was trying to kill newly converted Darth Vader. There is a big difference. I really hope you are not trying to compare that Anakin to prime Darth Vader.
Originally posted by Kotor3
I know you feel this is a good point but it isn't. Kid Bobba did enough to distract Obi Wan. While Jango hid and attacked. Obi Wan wasn't trying (as a Jedi) to kill Jango.Obi Wan was trying to kill newly converted Darth Vader. There is a big difference. I really hope you are not trying to compare that Anakin to prime Darth Vader.
You're trying too hard. Fact is Obi Wan was unable to use any force push/crush/choke maneuver to effectively nullify Jango.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Obi wan fought jango as a knight. He fought anakin not only as a master but a member of the council. He had three years more training. Lets not forget that dooku beat both anakin and obi wan in ep2 but Anakin took him practically solo in ep 3.
And Ultron is leagues ahead of Jango.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilWindu also took him on and didn't use his force powers to easily crush him.
Obi wan fought jango as a knight. He fought anakin not only as a master but a member of the council. He had three years more training. Lets not forget that dooku beat both anakin and obi wan in ep2 but Anakin took him practically solo in ep 3.
Try being objective, kid.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilWindu didn't break his jetpack the beast did.
Jango can't fly so windu wins= context.
Obi wan under order not to kill jango= pathetic jedi can't even beat jango.Do i understand that right?
Kenobi beat Anakin and didn't kill him either. Why didn't he use those force powers for the safe win ?
To be fair he did cut off all his limbs and dropped him in a pool of lava. Sisious was shocked he survived too. If you recall the fight, obi wan did try to use the force. Anny countered with the force. Remember yoda vs dooku? When their knowledge of the force is pretty equal they have to resort to sabets.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Jango can't fly so windu wins= context.
Obi wan under order not to kill jango= pathetic jedi can't even beat jango.Do i understand that right?
1. Ultron flies
2. The difference between Ultron and Jango is a lot more vast than the difference between Vader and Obi Wan. Obi Wan can give Vader a fight. Ultron will walk all over Jango. Point is, Obi Wan's inability to subdue Jango should tell you just how difficult it will be for Vader to kill Ultron.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilKenobi didn't come over and deliver the death blow. If his force powers were that big of an advantage he'd easily own Jango without killing him.
To be fair he did cut off all his limbs and dropped him in a pool of lava. Sisious was shocked he survived too. If you recall the fight, obi wan did try to use the force. Anny countered with the force. Remember yoda vs dooku? When their knowledge of the force is pretty equal they have to resort to sabets.